Ramp all the way! 
Makes life easier... and great for getting away with the odd bonus ball
Spank's
Makes life easier... and great for getting away with the odd bonus ball Spank's
To ramp or not to ramp...?
- Thread starter Ben Frain
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because it makes it easier
because I can't shoot fast normally
for me, these are 2 reasons that ramping is a bad thing. If it allows no-game dweebs to shoot as fast as people who actually have talent than its not good. I would rather see people with no talent blasted off the field by people that have it, than see a level playing field. Call me old fashioned....
because I can't shoot fast normally
for me, these are 2 reasons that ramping is a bad thing. If it allows no-game dweebs to shoot as fast as people who actually have talent than its not good. I would rather see people with no talent blasted off the field by people that have it, than see a level playing field. Call me old fashioned....
Its always gonna be the same with this arguement, people who can't shoot fast or off handed will love ramping, people who have those particular skills will hate it.
One thing that I don't like is using ramping on short fields, ie the PA, no sooner is game on called than theres a hail of paint on you, which just makes for short break outs and less movement. Its not so bad in the mills with the longer fields though.
Semi all the way i reckon.
One thing that I don't like is using ramping on short fields, ie the PA, no sooner is game on called than theres a hail of paint on you, which just makes for short break outs and less movement. Its not so bad in the mills with the longer fields though.
Semi all the way i reckon.
People want it to be easy because they suck. Unfortunately, there are more people that suck than don't, which means that if stuff like this is left to a concensus, or if people on here are looking for what is 'more popular' then ramping will always win. It sucks to be crap at something, much better to be the same as everyone else, except for the people who have the skills...
I say everyone above who said they prefer ramping did so because they suck. Those that disagree with me, only disagree because they don't like to be told that they suck, which I understand, but don't dress it up as anything else, because it ain't gonna wash with me.
Anyone decent can run and gun and put out a rope of paint without ramping. Anyone else should practice, or you will get worse, and seeing as you suck already, that could get really embarassing....
I say everyone above who said they prefer ramping did so because they suck. Those that disagree with me, only disagree because they don't like to be told that they suck, which I understand, but don't dress it up as anything else, because it ain't gonna wash with me.
Anyone decent can run and gun and put out a rope of paint without ramping. Anyone else should practice, or you will get worse, and seeing as you suck already, that could get really embarassing....
slightly off topic - missy do you think that the guns should be at a capped ROF if we are in true semi? Or should it be unlimited ROF? would a capped ROF help stop many cheat modes?
Im neither for nor against ramping btw, i maintain the skills i have had for time, and drop the new ones in when i need them, so to me it makes no difference
Im neither for nor against ramping btw, i maintain the skills i have had for time, and drop the new ones in when i need them, so to me it makes no difference
Sorry but that's plain old poo. **** players get mown, ramp or no ramp.Missy Q said:
Semi exists only in the memories of those who played in the pre elecro era. Show me someone shooting above 12BPS in true semi and I'll show you a liar or a cheat, regardless or not of whether they know it
If people wiggling their fingers about really quickly is skill (even if they can do it while also running, eating a pie or patting their head) then paintball has about as much chance of succeeding as a sport as... something really unlikely.
Ben, its not poo mate, and yeah, I can show them to you, in fact I could also ask Robbo to show them to you, as 9 of them would be on his team. I can show you 9 of them on Joy too, and a ton more - thats just a couple of teams everyone should know well enough.
There are plenty of people shooting fast in semi-auto, there are a bunch of people cheating too, more I am sure, but thats not the issue here.
I thought this 'skill' thing had been put to bed, but if you would like to take this up in fight club I am sure I have enough materiel just in this one thread to win 10 times over. Of course its a skill. Thats why the guys above are saying they like ramping - because they are no good with their fingers (their words, not mine). In a world of no ramping guns, who stands more chance of hitting someone? The guy who can pull the trigger 12 times per second while running, or the guy that can't? Don't bother answering. Fact is, crap players are getting mopwn, yes, but by players who are also crap, but have ramping. If there was no rampinmg, better teams/players would REALLY start to stand out, and then it would be far easier to assemble a team of genuine talent from which some results should be forthcoming. Argue all you want, I rest safe in the knowledge of being totally right.
Smug? Me?
There are plenty of people shooting fast in semi-auto, there are a bunch of people cheating too, more I am sure, but thats not the issue here.
I thought this 'skill' thing had been put to bed, but if you would like to take this up in fight club I am sure I have enough materiel just in this one thread to win 10 times over. Of course its a skill. Thats why the guys above are saying they like ramping - because they are no good with their fingers (their words, not mine). In a world of no ramping guns, who stands more chance of hitting someone? The guy who can pull the trigger 12 times per second while running, or the guy that can't? Don't bother answering. Fact is, crap players are getting mopwn, yes, but by players who are also crap, but have ramping. If there was no rampinmg, better teams/players would REALLY start to stand out, and then it would be far easier to assemble a team of genuine talent from which some results should be forthcoming. Argue all you want, I rest safe in the knowledge of being totally right.
Smug? Me?
Am I the only who thinks it is a bit ludicrous to call something a "talent" that is literally no more than twiddling one's fingers quickly?
I have fast fingers, and at first didn't like the idea of ramping. But after playing plenty of XBall with it, I now realize it has only improved the game.
I have fast fingers, and at first didn't like the idea of ramping. But after playing plenty of XBall with it, I now realize it has only improved the game.
You may be totally right but the fact is you are arguing about apples when I am arguing about pears.Missy Q said:
I'm not saying shooting fast isn't a skill. I'm saying it's a totally pathetic skill to watch.
I'm not going to be astounded by the skill of someone wiggling two fingers really quickly in the same way I am seeing someone reading an incoming lame of paint, changing their course accordingly and executing a perfect dive into a bunker for example. That's skill in the athletic sense. You know, in the sense that people purport to want paintball as a sport. In the sense that people could also argue extreme ironing is a sport but I would disagree. Capiche?
I just feel your logic is skewed with regards skill sets. I'm sure you would agree that a team of NXL players (who presumably would be poor at true semi as they are used to full auto) would still win more consistently than a team of lesser other skills (running, playing tight etc etc) but with fast fingers? In which case, how important is shooting fast, really?
I would also still argue against all those teams/players being able to shoot over 12BPS in true SEMI but we'll never know for sure will we?
This has been done a thousand times and I am still always right.
These ramping arguments just get deleted so I am not prepared to waste time reiterating it all again. My bottom line...
1. Shooting fast is a skill but not an important one in the progress of paintball as a 'sport'
2. Ramping creates a level playing field so that the participants can be judged better or worse than their oppponents on other tangible skills (e.g. not because they have a naughty mode on their marker) that can be appreiated by anyone able to spot physical athletisism
3. True semi auto doesn't exist anywhere today where electro markers are used competitively.