PSP's new 15 BPS rule

[manike]

Have a busy schedule but I'm thinking about this and will try to come up with a set of criteria later.

ATB

 

[Gyroscope]

When you write "last" as in "after which you stop pulling the trigger," us ethe word "final" instead. It would save a page of misunderstanding.

The 150 ms barrier after the final trigger pull is designed for the shot ramping permissive PSP rule. You could simply write "no shots fired after 65ms after the final trigger pull" for semi auto rules. That would allow the gun's software to buffer to 65 ms ROF and detect trigger pulls continuously between shots.

EDIT: oops. thought I was talking about MS rof rules. If that is the topic, cool. If this is about PSP rules... um...

 

[shamu]

Suggestion

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
Working from your initial wording Steve (in no particular order):

1. - BPS is defined as being the rate of fire measured as the shortest time between any two shots.

2. - BPS is capped at 15, which is to say no two shots can be spaced by less time than 65 milliseconds.

3. - Buffering shots is allowed, to the extent that no more shots are fired than the nummer of manual trigger activations.

4. - No shot may be fired (whether by virtue of buffering or trigger activation) later than 150 milliseconds after activation of the trigger.

(...... This is one thing I have no idea how anyone would enforce..... but as a matter of principal it should be in there.)

5. - Only true semi-auto markers are allowed (no bouncing or enhanced firing modes)

6. - Penalty: 141 for first offence at an event, 341 for second offence at an event, 341 and disqualification of the player from the event and the team being made to play one player short for the remainder of the event for 3rd offence. - If the player is in breach of the rule after a game, the penalty will be carried over to the start of next game the team plays at that event.

(I think it should be a personal penalty, not a team penalty, so that if player A offends, then it is not second offence if player B does it after - but a new first offence...... This would however mean markers had to be tagged)

Nick

I like the definitions of 1 - 5. Much easier to understand and reduces the benefits of a cheater board.

6. The point of the rule is to make is cheating an unattractive option, so I would make the penalties more severe and team based. I'd suspend the player and team plays short for x number of games (three games maybe). A 1-4-1 for a cheating gun isn't a punishment, it's barely a slap on the wrist.

I'd also add an exception to the BPS rule for mechanical (non-electronic) markers with no bounce.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Shamu

In principle I agree - but after all the problems last year, I would prefer relatively mild penalties at first - but ones that will still cost you games - and the screw can then be tightened when we have proof of concept.

We definitely do NOT want another "Toulouse" this year, with SO many players banned - most of them probably without having any intention of cheating.

Nick

 

[Collier]

Sorry am confused by number 5 Semi Auto only I assume the 15bps cap would still apply?

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Obviously !

Only true semi - capped at 15 BPS

N

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Jotajotaz

I'ts very hard to have a 1x1 for first time offenders and 3x1 for second timers, since that would mean that every ref in every field should be aware of the previous violations made by any player.

3x1 first time, and out of here the second. Or just out of here the first time... if the rule is clearly worded there is no excuse to not play by it.
QUOTE]

I see what you mean.... but I was working under the assumption, that max one ref per field would operate this equipment - and be dedicated to doing just that (and maybe pre-game chronographing) - as it will completely remove his focus from the game?

As such - that one ref should be in constant contact with the organisation and ultimate - and be up to speed to players that have already received penalties.

I know it would be easier with just a harsh first offender rule - but I think Toulouse last year proved how bad an idea that is with new rules

Nick

 

[Collier]

Obviously !

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
Only true semi - capped at 15 BPS

N

Figured, just checking ya weren't having a moment of madness...

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Nice of you to check Paul

- I have those all the time

 

[trummar]

Originally posted by jotajotaZ
I'ts very hard to have a 1x1 for first time offenders and 3x1 for second timers, since that would mean that every ref in every field should be aware of the previous violations made by any player.

3x1 first time, and out of here the second. Or just out of here the first time... if the rule is clearly worded there is no excuse to not play by it.


EDIT :Typos

Sorry for this almost similar post to what Nick wrote:

I don't think it would be a problem with keeping track of this. Head-Field-ref just calls/radios to the über-judge in the organization tent/house and reports the penalty on player number X. If he had an 141 or whatever that would be dealt with then.

If a team has to start with one less guy that would be relayed to the correct field where they are about to play... etc...

But then again. More work for already busy organization people...

T.