But Simon......
Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
.....I'm not saying capping the ROF solves everything.... the other methods of checking guns should still be in place.
I'm just saying that if you cap the ROF at 12, the risks involved with cheat software, etc. become much less attractive, because no matter what, you will not be able to get a sginificant improvement over what you can get on a regulation setup.
My thoughts are a small barrelmounted device that is able to measure the number of shots per second, and once that goes above 12, an alarm goes off that will allow the nearest judge to eliminate the player and call a 141 (or whatever).
Simple, cheap, easily done..... and that's just for starters.
For people who think 12 BPS is "boring to watch" - you guys have a completely warped view of how fast people can ACTUALLY fire their guns..... 12 BPS IS fast !
Nick
This ain't all in response to the above but a lot of the thread:
Hmmm I can already seen the next board hack, 12 balls out the marker in 1/3 of a second, then it shuts down for the remaining 2/3s. Is your device going to measure the actual amount of balls fired in a second, or the peak rate at which they were fired?
Start condensing down the amount of balls being fired into a smaller time frame and you up the danger ante significantly. 12 bps unaided is fast, but don't tell me a lot of players don't actually reach much higher equivalent peaks for shorter time frames. What your really advocating is not 12 bps but 1 ball per 1/12th of a second. At that speed, I believe you do begin to affect some of the dynamics or skill of the game (not to mention it's view ability). Even if you manage to hit a running player at that ROF, spectacular looking it will not be, cos they are going to be through the lane (unless your lane'ing is da shiznit). That's my opinion of course and was merely hypothesizing it's affect on TV.
1. The simple fact is High ROF aided or not is already here. Yep 12 is fast, but there are players who I know can shoot exceptionally fast unaided, you going to ban them in the short term?
2. Players are using sophisticated cheats the scrutineers don't know how to catch
3. No solution is either immediate or financially viable at present. Force new "limited" equipment either guns, boards or hoppers on people, and how are the non-sponsored going to pay for these? Even monitoring equipment for all it's good is not going to be here in time and whose going to foot the bill.
So before we have a serious injury, or a player ends up "brown bread"" at either Camp or DMA, put something in place to protect the players. We can't uninvent something that's already here, unless we stop all play in the meantime and all invest a sh*tload of time and money. For all the arguments, devils advocate, accusations of X Team or Y gun, player safety has not budged a single inch in this thread. Nor has the incentive to cheat been tackled at great length because it's politically expedient not to. OK this will likely be dealt with in the long term, but for all the recent rhetoric here, I see no tangible improvements.
How about something that acknowledges the status quo (for all it's rights and wrongs), such as compulsory lenses replacement if player gets multiple hits here, marshal marks the lenses to prevent it's further use. Sensible neck padding (is a single neoprene layer really effective for multiple hits?). Are the 7 man padding rules really applicable to EXL and Open X? Take a look at NXL players after a game, is that an image we want to project to the masses? Take it from me I have very recent experience, Chicks DO NOT dig scars.
Ok the thread is about FA and Bounce, but the suggested solutions are either a long way off, possibly illegal anyway, massively expensive or so contentious people are going to move to a series that does not have technological restrictions in place (each series is a consumer choice remember), not to mention that the cheater is always one step ahead. Putting more microchips onto field in the short run, isn't going to stop a 16 year old getting a double eye out, or a crushed larynx. We need to find the balance of all issues that does not compromise, the playability, view ability, player enjoyment and overall player safety of the sport. game, whatever it's called these days.
