But why didnt he as the payer clean it as the game hadnt started yet so therefore couldnt be considered to be wiping?
NSPL 19.03.06 - The STUPID new 141 Rule
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I take on board some of what you're saying. However 'Refs are players with out Guns'. If they know how to use a gun they should know how to Ref.
This is going to get very interesting soon when you throw in different languages and percieved nationalistic bias at iternational events
There's less than 10 seconds till game on, one hand is holding the marker against the netting, the other is touching the ground, he's ready to sprint to the snake.
He's not going to compromise his breakout run and risk getting shot on the break to wipe a completely unexpected non-game related hit - it's not something you expect to happen with a couple of seconds before game on and you only have a split second to react.
There were two options as I see it.
1st Like mikeanywhere mentioned - the marshall who saw it should have immediately cancelled the 10 seconds and halted the game. Wiped him down and restarted the 10 second call.
2nd Failing that he should have been on the player like a rash the second he gets to his primary to wipe the hit to avoid any confusion from another marshall, which is what happened.
Two players were pulled for it, completely unnecessarily in the end, as the second marshall correctly called a 1-4-1 (But the orginal marshall who saw the hit sat back and said nothing?? That was very wrong). So we're then 2 players down within seconds for no reason.
Just to say - I like the 1-4-1 rule. I had a great time on Sunday and there were some very good calls made on Sunday because of the rule, in addition to all the bad ones we're hearing about. I believe it still comes back to marshall education on ALL of the rules that they're meant to be enforcing to make sure a game runs as smoothly as possible.
right then guy's i was reffin that tourny and i agree there was i bit of inconsistancy with the marshalin.
But to take it out on the marshals is wrong we give up our sundays for not much cash to get shouted at by you guy's. (trust me i'd rather be playing)
A few guys who where reffin had never refed before and got a crash course and the way you guy bitch and wine at us soon there will be 1 ref per field as it is at the mo there is a shortage of marshals we had 6 on our field to keep an eye on 14 players do the numbers
all i can say is think guys why do you play paint ball is it for the love of the game and the love of been part of a close team or is it to bitch and wine
ou one quick thing to the guy who started this thread regarding the guy at the back who knelt in paint he need to tell the marshal if he kneels in it if he doesn't get the marshal to wipe it off it his dam falt
loads of love charlie
But to take it out on the marshals is wrong we give up our sundays for not much cash to get shouted at by you guy's. (trust me i'd rather be playing)
A few guys who where reffin had never refed before and got a crash course and the way you guy bitch and wine at us soon there will be 1 ref per field as it is at the mo there is a shortage of marshals we had 6 on our field to keep an eye on 14 players do the numbers
all i can say is think guys why do you play paint ball is it for the love of the game and the love of been part of a close team or is it to bitch and wine
ou one quick thing to the guy who started this thread regarding the guy at the back who knelt in paint he need to tell the marshal if he kneels in it if he doesn't get the marshal to wipe it off it his dam falt
loads of love charlie
Tournaments are expensive and ppl want value for money. Bad/inexperienced/inconsistent reffing is as much rip off as 100£/case tournament paint only.
Maybe first timers shouldn't be reffing, perhaps some hands on training before the tournament?
No one is having a go at the Refs on the day as such.
At tournaments somebody has got to give up their sunday for 'not much cash', otherwise there is no Tourny and we'd all rather be playing in anycase.
As for refs that had never done it before i'm assumeing that they got crash course on the rules as well
and have at least played a couple of tournies or were they asylum seekers from the job centre Still what has come to light in this thread that despite the huge advance's in gun / field /paint technology everyone forgot to advance they Refs abilities. Maybe the rewards for Reffing needs to be increased. Although i don't personally think that better rewards will lead to better Refs but something needs to be done before it all comes crashing down.
amen there needs to be a marshaling team that have been trainned also get rid of that crappy 141 rule its crap for us as well
not the point! i have reffed numerous times at all levels! and if you are an energetic ref that will get 'stuck in' you can ref two or three players (if you get your positioning right!)
this "we dont get paid much" " we spend our sundays working for you guys" attitude really gets me - so typically English!!
what ever happened to the 'take pride in what i do' attitude.if you get the attitude right the rest flows....trust me
rubbish! you can tell a hit from a knelt on ball, and unless you can be sure its a hit then the players stays alive! happened to me in HB last year, and i went mental as the ref was just waiting for an excuse to pull me!
i still am of the belief that the marshalls/refs are there to check for hits. (except for goggs and obvious hits)
not flaming you directly 'Chantelle' just using your comments to get my view across
no worries dude but it does state in the rules if you kneel in paint you need to make a marshal aware.
and ask my house mate i chucked my self around that pitch so much i can't even move i can't even get up
and ask my house mate i chucked my self around that pitch so much i can't even move i can't even get up