Wassup with Robbie the Robot at HB
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Originally posted by Baca Loco
Where did I start or promote any rumors about any particular gun?
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Otherwise I note you aren't disagreeing with me.
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Originally posted by Baca Loco
Where did I start or promote any rumors about any particular gun?
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Not gonna let this one go quite so easy cos you aren't gonna find a direct reference to any specific marker or manufacturer in any of my remarks on the subject.Originally posted by manike
In another thread
Otherwise I note you aren't disagreeing with me.
Explain that one then... and the fact you even aknowledge you were making a crack at them?
If you weren't trying to point out something?
Makes me laugh that Jim Drew was getting together with Smart Parts at LA to try and point out guns that were "illegal".
Well I guess they are experts on the subject. (having had to deal with debounce and turbo issues for so long that is
)I won't repeat what I heard the AA's judging saying about their guns when they thought they were alone and had no clue who I was, but rest assured I'm going to be trying a few different ways of operating guns just in case I can find something 'special'.
A--Nowhere in the quoted "crack" do I say anything specifically derogatory about Timmys. What you've done is infer something from the way I said what I said; and, B--in the context of the thread it was a comment aimed squarely at you, not Timmys.Originally posted by manike
Explain that one then... and the fact you even aknowledge you were making a crack at them?
If you weren't trying to point out something?
And further, in the comment you have mischaracterized there is nothing that even infers what my personal opinion is so how can you claim I'm promoting or starting any rumor? In fact you couldn't possibly have inferred what you did if the idea wasn't already common talk. So there.
And, finally, as I said before and will happily stand behind--
"If the fact that I've suggested there are multiple illegal or illegally equipped markers in regular tourney competition makes me a rumormonger I plead guilty. And to stay the course I'll suggest that even if Robbie works as well as some have suggested it won't and can't catch all the cheats currently in use."
Cheater Boards and Ramping Modes
Look, The Bottomnline is If anyone honestly believes There arent an abundance of illegal guns,most of them being intimidators,(cheater boards and ramping modes) being used in paintball today then those people are dumb as a brick and should just GKTS.
It's even more disgusting that industry manufacturers are blatantly ruining the sports integrity with manufactured cheater boards and modes,in hopes of selling a fast marker to the publics eye all while creating controversy and could eventually deteriorate the sport and what its supposed to be.
Look, The Bottomnline is If anyone honestly believes There arent an abundance of illegal guns,most of them being intimidators,(cheater boards and ramping modes) being used in paintball today then those people are dumb as a brick and should just GKTS.
It's even more disgusting that industry manufacturers are blatantly ruining the sports integrity with manufactured cheater boards and modes,in hopes of selling a fast marker to the publics eye all while creating controversy and could eventually deteriorate the sport and what its supposed to be.
I don't think it can, I don't even think most people would be able to. Do you have any idea how we could? I don't.
I think we lost the battle against electronic gun cheats when the first electronic gun was invented... I'd blame SP but they didn't make the first one
What it can and does detect is any standard cheats programmed into stock software. Or cheats that don't need switching in, like ramping rof or velocity at pre-determined levels or rof.
It doesn't detect any of those aftermarket or 'special' boards that have way more programmed into them.
From what I know switcheable cheater boards are rare. They either cheat at a determined level or they don't. (well so far anyway
I guess that may change with the new tests?) Trouble is the cheats and villains are always one step ahead of the cops.I have no doubt a huge number of people are using stock legal code, illegally. I.E. setting them up with bounce or so they can change the bounce settings on the field.
And yes there are a lot of cheater boards out there, but I don't think as many as people believe. Just a LOT of cheats. Paintball is full of them.
I do think the WAS board with it's ease of duping the judges and bypassing the eyes gave rise to rumours of many illegal boards. It was way to easy to cheat by dissabling the eyes, but it's also easier to catch. Where WAS boards have been installed with special swicthes to do this is another issue altogether.
In effect it is a 'legal' board being used 'illegally'.
But then it's not just WAS Boards, you can cheat with any software and gun to an extent. E-mags by changing the ROF (not locked out!) E-cockers by setting them not to bounce with a low reg pressure, and then winding it up a little so the extra recoil gets the gun going. etc. Tmmies with WAS by bypassing the eyes (note you can't do this with the new Frenzy Board).
Just like with people playing on etc. you can make rules against it and check for it and implement penalties but you aren't ever going to stop it.
(Ledz blame Jack for making me write a long post).