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Do I get my philosophy degree now?
UK National League Champions 2005
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Do I get my philosophy degree now?
PA BOLLOCKS
Good words Robbo. Those dudes at The PA Shafted our Team Big Time I hope they fall flat on there face.
Good words Robbo. Those dudes at The PA Shafted our Team Big Time I hope they fall flat on there face.
We had a team in the PA and have pulled the team out for certain reasons.
The basic idea Hatts and Gillie have is good, but the way it has been handled in the past gives the impression that it will be nothing more then another solitaire series with the importance grade of ZERO.
It's a bit steep the call it THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. The PA is far off from being a national league as it only can accomodate a small percentage of the teams that would actually matter to call it a National League. The PA management seems not be willing to expand the PA.
What we really need is a set up in the UK like a football league where teams from all over the country can compete without having to travel for 100s of miles and spend loads of money. Have a league in each country and let the top division teams play each other.
Paintball is what it is A HOBBY. None of you (except Sanchez) gets paid to play. It is not your job and yes, we all spend tons on the game.
Until organiser start to work together on a national level we will never see any real improvement in the sport.
We have too many series with different rules and set ups.
HPG is still working on setting up a new site in Essex. (Council is a bit slow down here!) The first thing we have done is offered the location to people like Syd and Scutty to have a look and get an opinion. Involve organisers to show them what can be offered/done.
Maybe in the season 2006 you will see a closer working together of more people to finally get that NATIONAL LEAGUE, at least we will try to.
The basic idea Hatts and Gillie have is good, but the way it has been handled in the past gives the impression that it will be nothing more then another solitaire series with the importance grade of ZERO.
It's a bit steep the call it THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. The PA is far off from being a national league as it only can accomodate a small percentage of the teams that would actually matter to call it a National League. The PA management seems not be willing to expand the PA.
What we really need is a set up in the UK like a football league where teams from all over the country can compete without having to travel for 100s of miles and spend loads of money. Have a league in each country and let the top division teams play each other.
Paintball is what it is A HOBBY. None of you (except Sanchez) gets paid to play. It is not your job and yes, we all spend tons on the game.
Until organiser start to work together on a national level we will never see any real improvement in the sport.
We have too many series with different rules and set ups.
HPG is still working on setting up a new site in Essex. (Council is a bit slow down here!) The first thing we have done is offered the location to people like Syd and Scutty to have a look and get an opinion. Involve organisers to show them what can be offered/done.
Maybe in the season 2006 you will see a closer working together of more people to finally get that NATIONAL LEAGUE, at least we will try to.
The recurrent mantra from people endeavoring to deal (or are dealing) with hatts is one of unbelievable arrogance and intransigence.
People close to him and who have had considerable contact with him sing this same mantra like a number one hit.
He seems full of his own self-importance and retreats almost instantaneously to anybody criticising him behind, 'what is it you have got against UK Paintball'? .
I mean he’s ‘only ‘doing it for our best interests’ ya know?
No he’s not, he’s doing it for himself……..end of !
It's almost as though he completely identifies himself with the fate of UK Paintball and if you criticise him you automatically put yourself against the best interests of Brit Ball.
It’s a transparent and infantile defence strategy.
Well, this is fine as long as he does represent Brit ball in some way but this representation is self-imposed and I'm afraid neither the PA league nor himself represent us at all.
In reality, he hides behind this defence because he has no real substance or standing and feels that by claiming he represents us all he will eventually elicit the support of all those who do play PA on a sympathy vote.
Here at the magazine we get to hear many things and we get told many things he has, or some of his reps have been saying about us, most of which are downright lies but in truth, he is so small on the feeding chain we don’t bother with him and the only reason this has erupted is because he pushed just a bit too far with his opening post, we can stand sooo much bull and in this case he took the piss.
It's a bit like having a fly buzzing around our heads, small and inconsequential but annoying and in the end....
He needs to take a chill pill, realise he ain’t who imagines himself to be, he's not our savoiur, never was, never will be, he needs to realize the fate and direction of UK Paintball isn’t going to be decided by him thankfully and then to just get on with his work.
He has misrepresented the PA at soo many levels, he talks of Sky TV and so on as if he single-handedly spearheaded UK paintball on TV, the reality is far from this, he pays for it to go on there, just like any of us would pay for an ad.
In fact, when we talked to someone in the know about all this, they said you could get ‘knitting’ on Sky if you paid for it.
The Motorola sponsorship they blurted about so much was little more than a few radios slung their way and we know this because one of Motorola’s people wrote to us to ask for clarification on some of the claims hatts or somebody from his PA mob had made to them, when we saw these claims, we laughed, they were unbelievable.
Most of the guys who play the PA see one side of hatts, we see and get to hear about the other side of him but hey that’s life.
From what I hear, the tourneys themselves are pretty well run and organised and at this level hatts does a pretty good job but the problems erupt when he ponders his, or his tournament's importance.
He certainly has good intentions at one level and this is where people get fooled because he will bang these like a drum but it's where he goes afterwards that's the problem, he just needs to get a handle on the real world of paintball and gain some perspective.
But if you need any sort of indicator as to who’s talking bull and who’s not, carefully read all of my posts that have commented on him (and from a whole host of others) and then read some of his when they talk about him or his league and what it stands for, when you reconcile what you read against what is really out there in the paintball world then you will inevitably see, the man’s on a different planet.
He seems to come across as a megalomaniac without the ‘megalo’.
People close to him and who have had considerable contact with him sing this same mantra like a number one hit.
He seems full of his own self-importance and retreats almost instantaneously to anybody criticising him behind, 'what is it you have got against UK Paintball'? .
I mean he’s ‘only ‘doing it for our best interests’ ya know?
No he’s not, he’s doing it for himself……..end of !
It's almost as though he completely identifies himself with the fate of UK Paintball and if you criticise him you automatically put yourself against the best interests of Brit Ball.
It’s a transparent and infantile defence strategy.
Well, this is fine as long as he does represent Brit ball in some way but this representation is self-imposed and I'm afraid neither the PA league nor himself represent us at all.
In reality, he hides behind this defence because he has no real substance or standing and feels that by claiming he represents us all he will eventually elicit the support of all those who do play PA on a sympathy vote.
Here at the magazine we get to hear many things and we get told many things he has, or some of his reps have been saying about us, most of which are downright lies but in truth, he is so small on the feeding chain we don’t bother with him and the only reason this has erupted is because he pushed just a bit too far with his opening post, we can stand sooo much bull and in this case he took the piss.
It's a bit like having a fly buzzing around our heads, small and inconsequential but annoying and in the end....
He needs to take a chill pill, realise he ain’t who imagines himself to be, he's not our savoiur, never was, never will be, he needs to realize the fate and direction of UK Paintball isn’t going to be decided by him thankfully and then to just get on with his work.
He has misrepresented the PA at soo many levels, he talks of Sky TV and so on as if he single-handedly spearheaded UK paintball on TV, the reality is far from this, he pays for it to go on there, just like any of us would pay for an ad.
In fact, when we talked to someone in the know about all this, they said you could get ‘knitting’ on Sky if you paid for it.
The Motorola sponsorship they blurted about so much was little more than a few radios slung their way and we know this because one of Motorola’s people wrote to us to ask for clarification on some of the claims hatts or somebody from his PA mob had made to them, when we saw these claims, we laughed, they were unbelievable.
Most of the guys who play the PA see one side of hatts, we see and get to hear about the other side of him but hey that’s life.
From what I hear, the tourneys themselves are pretty well run and organised and at this level hatts does a pretty good job but the problems erupt when he ponders his, or his tournament's importance.
He certainly has good intentions at one level and this is where people get fooled because he will bang these like a drum but it's where he goes afterwards that's the problem, he just needs to get a handle on the real world of paintball and gain some perspective.
But if you need any sort of indicator as to who’s talking bull and who’s not, carefully read all of my posts that have commented on him (and from a whole host of others) and then read some of his when they talk about him or his league and what it stands for, when you reconcile what you read against what is really out there in the paintball world then you will inevitably see, the man’s on a different planet.
He seems to come across as a megalomaniac without the ‘megalo’.
uk 'ball
surprised at the way this has all gone...
...again, without tryin' to rock anyones boat, but if there is this issue with the sport over here not being represented to its full potential, please say that there is some kind of contingency plan....being honest i'm not one for understanding politics-i just shoot an ego! I am aware pete that you yourself have had many meetings with sergei leontiev (spelling?), of russian legion fame. Has there, is there, or will there be any kind of future development in this country for a UK event/tournament that will correctly adjust Britball into a format worthy of international competition?
surprised at the way this has all gone...
...again, without tryin' to rock anyones boat, but if there is this issue with the sport over here not being represented to its full potential, please say that there is some kind of contingency plan....being honest i'm not one for understanding politics-i just shoot an ego! I am aware pete that you yourself have had many meetings with sergei leontiev (spelling?), of russian legion fame. Has there, is there, or will there be any kind of future development in this country for a UK event/tournament that will correctly adjust Britball into a format worthy of international competition?
i think the pa is the best tourny in the uk.
it is well organised and well run.
also i think it has the highest level of competiton, ok so not all the big hitters are in there, but they arent anywhere else in the uk.
I think it means something for the tigers or manc union to win.
otherwise why would they play it ???
it is well organised and well run.
also i think it has the highest level of competiton, ok so not all the big hitters are in there, but they arent anywhere else in the uk.
I think it means something for the tigers or manc union to win.
otherwise why would they play it ???
uk 'ball
Ali t, we (Brits) cannot do anything unilaterally with regard to developing paintball and then hoping Europe will follow suit, it's the other way around I'm afraid.
This is hatt's fatal flaw in that he saw his 'vision' alone and can't seem to understand why everybody doesn't fall over themselves in adopting it.
Paintball, in any one European country isn't big enough to go it alone in this sense and a consensus approach has to be undertaken if anybody is going anywhere.
The stroke of genius, a phrase I am reluctant to use when I'm just about to mention Steve Baldwin, came about a few years back when he and Laurent called me down for a meeting to throw out the idea of a Millennium type league combining five or so tournaments when there was no such organisation.
I liked the idea but couldn't commit to it in any substantial way but Steve and Laurent were consequently proved to bang on the money when it came to assessing the European Paintball climate.
It has grown from strength to strength.
And so, we are now in a position where we have to look at national destinies inextricably connected to those of Europeans.
It’s a top down approach we got here in that we have to sort everything out on a European level and then work within that.
Britain’s Paintball development can be defined in one of two ways within the context of this thread and it is as teams and as tourneys.
The team’s can and will develop independent of any national structure, not to harp on about it but we (Nexus) had no league structure in which to develop and look what we did in our first year. We ended up as 7th ranked in the world with no national league whatsoever.
And so, what seems to be holding back our team’s development is not so much the loss or absence of any national league structure but the teams themselves and this point has been already well made by Duffy and others on this thread.
We would seemingly rather bitch and moan than get on and do the necessary training and have the necessary commitment.
If UK teams wish to develop then it is in their hands.
As for defining UK’s development in terms of tournaments and any attendant structure; the Campaign Cup provides a focal point for the year for the UK baller, it is our cup, it is our opportunity to show what we can do, it is our opportunity to go to a tourney where the best of Europe and some of the top US teams are gonna come strut their stuff.
But saying this, there isn’t a route to this cup via national tourneys that feed it throughout the year and there doesn’t need to be as the other events within the Millennium calendar provide this anyway.
We must see the UK’s development as part of a bigger picture here and work within that environment if we are to evolve.
As for the meetings with Sergey and co, he sees things on a completely different level from anybody else I know in Paintball, he sees things on a true macro level and if I have one mission in Paintball, it is to try and convince the powers that be to listen to some of his ideas.
I have got my own ideas on how European Paintball should develop and luckily for me they don’t in any way conflict with Sergey’s.
We'll see what Tuesdays meet with him and subsequent conference call with Luarent will bring.
If Sergey tells me ‘Pete, you are being a dick, it’s like this…..’ I will listen and will adapt my thinking but people like hatts do not have that same gravitas or standing and thus will attract the reaction he deserves when tries to tell me anything.
At the moment, European paintball’s best interest is being compromised by an impending war and until this has resolved itself one way or the other, UK Paintball, and nor any other Europeans can settle on a coherent direction.
We are all in limbo at the moment but trust me on this one, no unilateral national league is going to provide a European blueprint if it resides outside the umbrella organisations of the NPPL or Millennium.
Our fate is that of Europe’s, it’s as simple as that.
Ali t, we (Brits) cannot do anything unilaterally with regard to developing paintball and then hoping Europe will follow suit, it's the other way around I'm afraid.
This is hatt's fatal flaw in that he saw his 'vision' alone and can't seem to understand why everybody doesn't fall over themselves in adopting it.
Paintball, in any one European country isn't big enough to go it alone in this sense and a consensus approach has to be undertaken if anybody is going anywhere.
The stroke of genius, a phrase I am reluctant to use when I'm just about to mention Steve Baldwin, came about a few years back when he and Laurent called me down for a meeting to throw out the idea of a Millennium type league combining five or so tournaments when there was no such organisation.
I liked the idea but couldn't commit to it in any substantial way but Steve and Laurent were consequently proved to bang on the money when it came to assessing the European Paintball climate.
It has grown from strength to strength.
And so, we are now in a position where we have to look at national destinies inextricably connected to those of Europeans.
It’s a top down approach we got here in that we have to sort everything out on a European level and then work within that.
Britain’s Paintball development can be defined in one of two ways within the context of this thread and it is as teams and as tourneys.
The team’s can and will develop independent of any national structure, not to harp on about it but we (Nexus) had no league structure in which to develop and look what we did in our first year. We ended up as 7th ranked in the world with no national league whatsoever.
And so, what seems to be holding back our team’s development is not so much the loss or absence of any national league structure but the teams themselves and this point has been already well made by Duffy and others on this thread.
We would seemingly rather bitch and moan than get on and do the necessary training and have the necessary commitment.
If UK teams wish to develop then it is in their hands.
As for defining UK’s development in terms of tournaments and any attendant structure; the Campaign Cup provides a focal point for the year for the UK baller, it is our cup, it is our opportunity to show what we can do, it is our opportunity to go to a tourney where the best of Europe and some of the top US teams are gonna come strut their stuff.
But saying this, there isn’t a route to this cup via national tourneys that feed it throughout the year and there doesn’t need to be as the other events within the Millennium calendar provide this anyway.
We must see the UK’s development as part of a bigger picture here and work within that environment if we are to evolve.
As for the meetings with Sergey and co, he sees things on a completely different level from anybody else I know in Paintball, he sees things on a true macro level and if I have one mission in Paintball, it is to try and convince the powers that be to listen to some of his ideas.
I have got my own ideas on how European Paintball should develop and luckily for me they don’t in any way conflict with Sergey’s.
We'll see what Tuesdays meet with him and subsequent conference call with Luarent will bring.
If Sergey tells me ‘Pete, you are being a dick, it’s like this…..’ I will listen and will adapt my thinking but people like hatts do not have that same gravitas or standing and thus will attract the reaction he deserves when tries to tell me anything.
At the moment, European paintball’s best interest is being compromised by an impending war and until this has resolved itself one way or the other, UK Paintball, and nor any other Europeans can settle on a coherent direction.
We are all in limbo at the moment but trust me on this one, no unilateral national league is going to provide a European blueprint if it resides outside the umbrella organisations of the NPPL or Millennium.
Our fate is that of Europe’s, it’s as simple as that.
I think the above says it all in terms of level of intelligent debate...the fact the Tigers only put in a reserve squad shows the level of importance they attach to it
The rest of this guy's post is just a contradiction and therefore warrants no response other than a sigh.
after reading this entire thread - ive decided the best course of action will be to go and jump off a bridge.
good bye cruel world
good bye cruel world
