UK Gun Control

[TJ 2]

And Manikke - our Govt is just as bad as yours dude. Fancy a smoke in a New York bar anyone?

Tough...

 

[Hotpoint]

Originally posted by manike
Why? I don't think the fire arms act is actually talking about paintball markers anyway They are talking about weapons with lethal capability at over 1ftlbs... we don't use weapons we use sports equipment that isn't lethal (if ever) but not until over 20ftlbs (by their own calcs...)

Doesn't sound to me like we should be in the same classification

Do they specifically mention paintball markers anywhere?

Well we've been over this before but there is case law which gives precedent to the notion that "Lethal" in the terms of the Act also means "Potentially Lethal". Unfortunately "potentially" is a very diffuse term (The Home Office certainly thinks of Markers as Airguns btw)

As for Markers not being mentioned that might be because it's the 1968 Act we're dealing with (as you well know)

 

[manike]

Originally posted by Hotpoint
Well we've been over this before but there is case law which gives precedent to the notion that "Lethal" in the terms of the Act also means "Potentially Lethal". Unfortunately "potentially" is a very diffuse term (The Home Office certainly thinks of Markers as Airguns btw)

As for Markers not being mentioned that might be because it's the 1968 Act we're dealing with (as you well know)

Yeah I know

I'm just thinking of ways we can fight to protect our sport.

Wasn't it potentially lethal at 20ft/lbs through an eye socket? in that case we are even further away from the actual Act's classifications...

gotta try.

 

[Trinity]

Originally posted by Baca Loco
And while we're at let's carry ID and register everything else that might be of concern to somebody. I've a drawer full of knives in the kitchen and a hammer and saw in the garage. Oh, and razor blades in the bathroom.
And c'mon, if you're really serious everybody who drinks alcohol needs to be registered as a possible danger. Lots more people die and cause injury and damage due to alcohol abuse than harm people with weapons of any sort.
Perhaps the odd checkpoint where people could be checked to make sure they are in compliance.

Manike's the only one so far who has offered a sensible solution while the rest of you queue up to prove how harmless you are.

Hotpoint--juxtaposition of your quote and "voluntary" is a huge hoot. Thanks for the laugh.

And it says 'Humble' in your title

Really your reaction to registration is the way our goverment seem to think, And public opinion this week after the shooting of four teenage girls (two of whom who died) at New Yew seems to be rally to support this Straight jacket approach.

But where is the Level gound?

If we volunteer the info or record it our selves through a self governing body does it not say we are reponsible and do not wish to be grouped in with the Loony front. Who think collecting AK47's is an acceptible sport or Touting 6inch fishing Knives in the pub on a Sunday night is just another ancient rite of passage?

What do you think would be acceptable accross the board?
Or would it be different here than in the states?

 

[TJ 2]

That thar federal governement gonna haf ta pry my paintgun from my cold dead hands...

 

[manike]

Originally posted by TJ 2
And Manikke - our Govt is just as bad as yours dude. Fancy a smoke in a New York bar anyone?

Yeah but only if I can 'smoke a fag' which actually given the US gun laws is probably more likely in a US bar than having a Marlboro...

 

[Trinity]

Originally posted by TJ 2
That thar federal governement gonna haf ta pry my paintgun from my cold dead hands...

If they do can I have it?? and what happens to your record collection?

 

[stongle]

TJ2

ah bollox, was just about say that myself, but in the Queens English of course (The authorities can have one's betokener when they remove it from one's cold dead fingers). Would'nt want to have been accused of persecuting "ethnic americans" or anything

And they say our government has a knee jerk reaction....pah Evidently Gansta rap was to blame for last week's Birmingham shootings, only lyrics they could find to support that claim though were from an early 90's Snoop n Dre track deep cover....go figure!

 

[Hotpoint]

Originally posted by manike
Wasn't it potentially lethal at 20ft/lbs through an eye socket? in that case we are even further away from the actual Act's classifications...

Nope, at 20ft/lbs into the eye-socket it was almost definitely lethal because of the distance it would drive itself back into your grey matter

A bruise could "potentially" kill you (if it caused a blood-clot for example)

 

[Trinity]

Looking at this
http://members.aol.com/gunbancon/Frames/1997_2.html
I its easy to see how quick the rug can be pulled from under you