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headrock6

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Originally posted by Buddha 3
If Dubya's dad is anything to go by, yes, a victorious president can lose an election....He had pretty good ratings after GW1, but got his ass whooped a year later by Billy Bob Clinton.

Gulf Wars II: Clone of the Attack. :D

Personally,Bush Sr getting elected also had alot to do with being one last debt of gratitude this country paid to Ronald Reagan...And Bush Jr will win in 04 by a landslide..Kerry could give em a run for his money yet far left Howard Dean will probably be the one and we all know how Democrats far when they run a far left hippy...Michael Dukakis and Wamlter Mondale..:eek: :rolleyes:


And Duff-I know the Arab world thinks thier under attack from us but they should and with good reason but not beacuse anything we've done...

1)On Sept 11,2001 three thousand Americans are murdered in a savage terrorist attack on US soil by Muslim extremists..
2)In October 2000,the USS Cole was attacked by Muslim extremists
3)In 1998,US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists
4)In 1996,a US Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists
5)In 1995,five Americans are killed by a car bomb by Muslim extremists
6)In 1993,the World Trade Center was bombed my Muslim extremists
7)In 1988 Pan Am flight 103,was bombed by Muslim extremists
8)In 1986 a West Belin disco frequented by US servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists
9)In 1985 the Achille Lauro,was seized and anAmerican was killed by Muslim extremists
10)In 1983 the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim extremists
11)In 1982,the US Embassy was blown up by Muslim extremists
12)In 1979,the US Embasst in Iran was stormed and Americans are held hostage for 444 days by Muslim extremists..


Now if you switch Muslim with Japanese,Colombian,or Canadian I would hope people would see why we might just be a tad bit pissed and are fighting back..Christ,to be politically correct at airports,we shy away from asking a man named Mohammed questions but we strip search former Vice Pres. Al Gore,a 90 year old woman,and a white guy in his 30's with a cowboy hat..If white men were attacking our country,id be damn happy if they were questioning me as I got this funny little about living...


Fine,99% of Muslims are,im sure,wonderful people..The other 1% that make up thier leaders and terrorist thugs are hijacking their religion of peace..Maybe look at the inside for problems and not the outside and we might get somewhere..Until then,the war on terror rolls on and unfortunately this time,Muslims are caught in the crosshairs..Sad really,but until theres major cahnges throughtout the Middle East,thats the way it is..
 

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Again I point out that I have nothing against Americans or the USA. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with someones government. Otherwise we just become a dictatorship where you cannot have an opinion.

Rudolph are you a paintballer? If so how would you feel if Bush decided to ban paintball? Would you just go along with it because thats what your president decides or would you stand up and fight for your right to play ball?

(see how I got this thread back to paintballing :D )
 
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So tens of thousands of muslims will die because of 1% of extremists?

That's about as acceptable as 9/11...
 
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I would also say that, if you take 9/11 out of your list, you're talking about what, 200-people over 20 years killed?

That is a very small amount by a very small number of extremists, most of whom probably had conflicting ideologies - this grouping them together as Muslims is helpful to no-one.
 

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Now if you switch Muslim with Japanese,Colombian,or Canadian I would hope people would see why we might just be a tad bit pissed and are fighting back..Christ,to be politically correct at airports,we shy away from asking a man named Mohammed questions but we strip search former Vice Pres. Al Gore,a 90 year old woman,and a white guy in his 30's with a cowboy hat..If white men were attacking our country,id be damn happy if they were questioning me as I got this funny little about living...

The problem is that Muslim is not a nationality. Could I then say that all of the terrorist activities that have occured in the UK have been committed by catholics? No I cannot. Have the British government the right to persecute catholics of all nations because of this? No. It is a too broad generalisation.
 

headrock6

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Originally posted by duffistuta
So tens of thousands of muslims will die because of 1% of extremists?

That's about as acceptable as 9/11...

Never said anybody dying was acceptable..Im trying to explain why quite possibly we feel the way we do when were attacked by countries who promote these extremists..If Canadians were bombing the **** out of us with the grace of thug leaders,sadly id be all for invading them as well..Our national security comes first..I know Euro/American policy is vastly different in this area but thats the way it is...
 

Buddha 3

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Originally posted by headrock6
Our national security comes first.
I doubt anyone has a problem with that. It's just the way that it's done that gets on some people's t*ts...;)

It seems that instead of finding the root of the problem and trying to fix that, all the emphasis is put on blowing the crap out of things. Ask yourself why they hate the US, and try to fix that. The US government is battling the symptoms, not the cause of the disease.
 

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Originally posted by crom-dubh


The problem is that Muslim is not a nationality. Could I then say that all of the terrorist activities that have occured in the UK have been committed by catholics? No I cannot. Have the British government the right to persecute catholics of all nations because of this? No. It is a too broad generalisation.



Ok..Switch it with Jewish extremists with the full grace of the Israeli government..Now im all for attacking Israel if thats what it takes..I know that theres probably millions of innocents involved but if people are dying,we'll do what we have to do to make it stop....Thats a Presidents first priority,like it or not...
 
Um, Rock, explain this for me...

///I know that theres probably millions of innocents involved but if people are dying,we'll do what we have to do to make it stop....///

Does that mean 'if people are dying we'll risk killing more innocent people', cos that's what it reads like...
 
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