This Millennium 15BPS rule...

[Nick Brockdorff]

Nope Steve

I absolutely do NOT think the MS should allow enhancement after the third shot.

The ONLY reason I can see for allowing that, is a "if you can't beat them - join them" policy..... which I am against for moral reasons.

I'm perfectly fine with true semi only - limited to 15 BPS EFFECTIVELY.

Nick

 

[Wadidiz]

Nope Steve

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
I absolutely do NOT think the MS should allow enhancement after the third shot.

The ONLY reason I can see for allowing that, is a "if you can't beat them - join them" policy..... which I am against for moral reasons.

I'm perfectly fine with true semi only - limited to 15 BPS EFFECTIVELY.

Nick

I was too but, after much discussion with far more technically knowledgeable peepz than me, came to the conclusion that we would just be in the same boat as last year---except with a ROF cap.

So please, pray tell, inform us how things would be any different with the cap and semi-only? And how could that be enforced?

(While you're at it tell us how to achieve world peace.)

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Well.....

... people keep saying it's impossible to do a straight 15 BPS cap, while measuring - not space between shots - but number of shots per second.

I find that hard to believe..... I mean... how hard can it be to write the programming for that ???

You cannot - as I see it - enforce true semi...... but I still think we should TRY.... for moral reasons.

Nick

 

[Wadidiz]

Well.....

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
You cannot - as I see it - enforce true semi...... but I still think we should TRY.... for moral reasons.

So, it seems, you believe in the honor system. The officials and some moral people, like yourself, will have the honor while all the rest have "the system". That's the way it is when you try to enforce the unenforceable.

 

[trummar]

Will those instruments measure the time between 2 shots or will measure a lot of shots and make an average?

I think/hope the last solution will be the better.

T.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by trummar
Will those instruments measure the time between 2 shots or will measure a lot of shots and make an average?

I think/hope the last solution will be the better.

T.

I agree but by reading the PSP rules it doesn't sound like it--assuming the MS follows in their footsteps. In fact, after reading PSP rules as posted by Wad, I may have to retract my previously unqualified support.

 

[Wadidiz]

Originally posted by Baca Loco
I may have to retract my previously unqualified support.

We's curious. What do you think the rules should be?

 

[gaff]

Nope Steve

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
II'm perfectly fine with true semi only - limited to 15 BPS EFFECTIVELY.

Nick

but Nick this exactly why these ideas are being suggested cos there is no such thing as true semi! again marshalls will be wasting time looking for ramping ROF guns instead of watching for hits etc, when if all modes (except ful;lauto) are within the rules then they only have to listen to the 16bps gun and deal with it appropriately!

and yes the difference sound wise from 15bps to 16bps can be heard quite easily after a few seconds!

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Wadidiz
We's curious. What do you think the rules should be?

Will post in your PSP thread when time permits but at first blush I think the language is ambiguous, the method is suspect--timing the gap between any two shots--and, as much as I want equality and fair play, I'm opposed to leveling the threat of penalizing capability, particularly given the present wording of the rules.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Steve

Because murderers are hard to catch - you don't go legalising murder.....

By oppinion is, that ANY body governing the rules of a sport, should use the following criteria when making the rules:

- Morals/sportmanlike behaviour
- Safety
- Exitability to players, spectators and media
- Positive development of the sport

.....And then endeavour to FIND the methods of enforcement that fit rules made with those criteria in mind.

Seems to me you are advocating letting the lunatics run the asylum at the moment?

I would rather see the sport require manufacturers to cooperate completely in ensuring the rules are kept.... or have their products banned from the sport.... than seeing the rules be stretched again and again to accomodate all the cheating we are too inept to catch.

If the sport needs to ban the use of electronics, to regain control, then that is what we should do..... I'll bet that you would all of a sudden see manufacturers become VERY cooperative, if they faced having their products banned from major Series in the sport.

Nick