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duffistuta

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Bah...

Originally posted by Itchy


All forcing teams to start out in DIII will accomplish is letting whatever latest incarnation of a US pro team come over and finance their trip by stealing the DIII prizes from legitimate new European teams.

Yep, I can see the new Ironmen planning for just such an eventuality even as we speak...:rolleyes: :p
 

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Maybe Robbo and Nick could answer this?

Originally posted by Christian-Malera
I hope somebody can answer a couple of questions regarding next season. From a team that are frustrated

1. From which division will Exl expand from ( super leaque/div one?) and how many will it be 05 and 06.

2. If the answer on 1 is The super leaque, then he hole promotion from the leaque will be unfair. The reason is, you gather points from all four legs. If you are unlucky and at one tournament a couple of the EXL teams joins in and you get them in the draw instead of fellow AM A teams, and the next round a couple of others from EXL joins in and the same happens....

3. Why do we need the super leaque? If we are not going to play X ball everyone why can't we have just two formats?
It is still a litle like the two best teams at rugby are going to be promoted to play in the NFL next year( National Football leaque).


I know that the last days events has made a NPPL participation, much more likely from our side.
If you guys step away from the fact that you are in the EXL league, and look at it from "our" angel.
Could you please give us your neutral opinion? I know you have them (opinions);)


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Frank Vallée
 
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duffistuta

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AFAIK the EXL, like the NXL, is a locked league and there will be no promotion or relegation.

Whether the board decides to open it up to include more teams depends on how this season goes, what TV/Dick Clarke/Richmond/the board decides is best, etc.

I'm really surprised at the amount of negativity being chucked about here - I'm all for hammering the Mill. when they deserve it, but in this instance I think they've made quite a bold move that could do great things for European Paintball. I don't agree with all the changes personally, and I really feel for Hardcore, but overall I think the Mill. have made a ballsy decision.

Just my 2p's worth.
 

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I think 3 divisions makes for broader abilities between teams, so should be interesting. Can't wait to see who opt's for which Division.

One thing I have found to be a shame is lack of any mention (thus far), of either a player body or recognition of the EPA. It maybe argued by some that the EPA was shot in the foot by Player Apathy, but let us not forget that 3 people took it upon themselves to try and sort something out, whilst trying to juggle work and team commitments. I'd have liked to see a move by the Millennium Committee to recognise the needs of players at ALL levels, as these are the lifeblood of a particular niche sporting activity. A prod from this level (although I've seen the argument to the contrary), would I think have given such a body a much needed shot in the arm.

Such a committee should have taken the fore on issues such as rule infringements, seeding (there you go Itchy, sign up if not already), and representing the interests of all teams to the Committee, not necessarily just the big 8 Franchised teams (as they now appear). The Millennium series and to some extent the MLT forum, is not the preserve of just the top few pros or group of 8. Of course these people have alot to say and valuable opinions, but the other 95% of teams playing these Major League Tournaments have as much right to pass comment on the series.

Don't get me wrong I think a Super League playing EXL is a good thing, however I see a group of 4 within the 8 already as the real showcase of Euro Talent (I maybe wrong as a year is a long time in Paintball as already a certain new Pro team has proved), this I hope will generate interest in the Sport and further promotion. By going with a group of 8 for 2004, the door on the NXL / DCP Benjamin Franklins has not been slammed, and this was a wise move to seize this Olive Branch whilst it still existed. However noble, it may be to have a Euro Only series, you've got to respect the committee for having the cojonnes of going this (possibly unpopular route) route. If paintball is ever to be a commercial sporting success, 2004 will probably prove to be a watershed in terms of how the game is played (although that's said every year :rolleyes: ). If it looks good, plays good (by pitting pro vs. pro), and is exciting maybe we'll stand a chance of reaching out to TV bucks, although how long this opportunity lasts after 2004 is anybodies guess. That saying major Bummer for hardcore.....
 

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Short posts are overrated.

I like pretty much everything else Millenium came up with, it's just that part about not preserving a division for new teams that strikes me as odd. Then again, I'm not entirely sure the release really says promotion/relegation actually extends down to DIII.
 

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GOT IT!!!

I know... the US has PSP (inc Xball) AND the NPPL. Both appear to be doing very well in their own respective areas (ie, 1 doing purely 7 man, the other catering for 10 man and providing X-ball, etc). Both have their foot in the door with respect to TV deals.

SO... The MS isn't catering for everyones needs. We need a new, seperate series in addition to the MS!!! SIMPLE!!!!

Right. Who's rich?

D.
 

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Originally posted by Duncster
GOT IT!!!

I know... the US has PSP (inc Xball) AND the NPPL. Both appear to be doing very well in their own respective areas (ie, 1 doing purely 7 man, the other catering for 10 man and providing X-ball, etc). Both have their foot in the door with respect to TV deals.

SO... The MS isn't catering for everyones needs. We need a new, seperate series in addition to the MS!!! SIMPLE!!!!

Right. Who's rich?

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So you want a rich philanthropist willing to throw good money after bad, i.e. boring to watch, dull counterpunch paintball.......

Perhaps you better get marrying some old ladies ;)