Smart Parts Patents
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"A friend of mine once met someone at a party who used to know a cousin of an insider at Smart Parts' nextdoor neighbours. Now, according to him...."
So, nobody knows the full sp with sp and everyone wants to hang them. Same old same old.
So, nobody knows the full sp with sp and everyone wants to hang them. Same old same old.
Although i think this is terrible, i ask a few question for all you boycotters...
You really gonna go back to old style cockers?
Gonna be happy going up against the non boycotters on electros?
Or are you just gonna pay the extra?
Seems to me we all jump on our high horses, but if they have the patents, there is bugger all we can do. WDP can still manafacture etc etc but just not trade in the USA. If individuals choose to import out there i guess there is nothing SP can do.
All i can see it doing is making a few bucks for SP, a few smaller companies close down, people boycott SP for a while then all will resume again. Just another money based hiccup in the wonderful history of paintball!!
You really gonna go back to old style cockers?
Gonna be happy going up against the non boycotters on electros?
Or are you just gonna pay the extra?
Seems to me we all jump on our high horses, but if they have the patents, there is bugger all we can do. WDP can still manafacture etc etc but just not trade in the USA. If individuals choose to import out there i guess there is nothing SP can do.
All i can see it doing is making a few bucks for SP, a few smaller companies close down, people boycott SP for a while then all will resume again. Just another money based hiccup in the wonderful history of paintball!!
What do you want to know?
I know their patents. They are there for everyone to see and read. I posted them before. Feel free to read them and let us know if you think they were first in invent all the concepts covered there in.
If you ask and pay for it you can also get the case history as it went through the USPTO. That tells us a lot about 'how' they got the patents. Interesting reading but one huge ass file.
We know they are sueing ICD.
We know they are sueing WDP.
I know because I have been spoken to directly by the people concerned that they have made sub peona'd (sp?) many high profile people in the industry. Some are media people and some are also marker manufacturers.
It's been stated by a colleague of Mike Cassidy that he was one of those required to give a deposition.
I know a member of SP told a friend of mine to hold of making electro guns. That friend has also posted a statement of such on the web.
It's known that people who now work for SP (Adam Gardner) or who were involved with SP (George Davison) have been involved in patent scams/fraud before please read this...
http://www.ftc.gov/os/1997/07/davisb~1.htm
The history of the case they are setting up against ICD shows they are preparing to go after other manufacturers. Again this can be obtained from the relevant courts.
All of that is fact as far as I am aware. There are also rumours from other prominent members of the industry as to the royalties and costs being asked for...
It's not about boycotting all electro's. It's about boycotting current SP products. It's fine to be using electro's made by someone else at the moment.
There is not bugger all we can do. This is about $$$ so hitting them in the pocket is a good start.
Also the whole fact this is being fought out in the court of law is BECAUSE something can be done about it.
If SP get world wide or European patents, then NO WDP might not be able to continue making guns. (I don't know if they are trying for this or if they have done, but it is possible)
And individuals can also be prosecuted by SP, for having, owning or building such a gun, it seems considering a recent article on American law I read...
Rumour has it SP are out to stop WDP completely.
And no you can't get around it by importing guns or making 'kit's that can then be assembled into electro guns.
If SP Win they will make millions out of other people's IP. Many companies will close down (either because they are not given licences by SP) or because they can not afford the licencing fee... currently rumoured to be $1,000,000 (yes one million dollars) per model line, and £50-$75 per gun.
Who do you think will end up paying for that? The companies or us the consumers?
Guys,
Rumours mean nothing at the moment! The email everyone has received from smart parts has been very carefully worded, and that is all you will get from them!
They cannot say anything which may affect the court case.
See what happens after ICD
Rumours mean nothing at the moment! The email everyone has received from smart parts has been very carefully worded, and that is all you will get from them!
They cannot say anything which may affect the court case.
See what happens after ICD
Is there actions towards ICD not bad enough as it is, even if they don't procedd to do anything else?
Certainly,
But what is the point on expanding on rumours that someone might have heard! Smart parts and their employees wont say anything,
so any rumours flying around are just that! So why not focus just on the case at hand and not what "so and so heard through a friend who knows someone"?
Dont get me wrong,
I think what they are doing shouldnt be happening! But see what happens
But what is the point on expanding on rumours that someone might have heard! Smart parts and their employees wont say anything,
so any rumours flying around are just that! So why not focus just on the case at hand and not what "so and so heard through a friend who knows someone"?
Dont get me wrong,
I think what they are doing shouldnt be happening! But see what happens