RIP Rushers???? Team England for good...

[TJ Lambini]

I think Robo's at

a UK tourney this weekend -Shoot tha Rainbow? -so he can't comment, but last time I spoke to him he told me tha following:

Same squad of players as X-Ball minus Sam Keats, plus Ledz as player coach rather than just coach.

Team will only play Millennium and NPPL events (though not all of them); apart from that, they will train but not compete as a team.

Team will enter all events as Pro

Robbo will not play, barring injuries occcurring at events or other things which leaves tha team short.

Name has yet to be agreed upon by tha team

Only confirmed sponsor is PGI

Nick Truter will remain on tha squad despite relocating to US

Any thing else anyone wants to know, if I know, I'll tell ya.

 

[manike]

I think Robo's at

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Nick Truter will remain on tha squad despite relocating to US

Makes sense considering the otehr points, the teams are going to be flying to where they play anyway. And I expect Nick will get valuable experience playing in the USA.

Now the question is... who will Nick be playing for in the USA... and will they be happy if he can't play all NPPL's for them...

oohhh....



manike

 

[Sammi T - Nexus Eclipse]

Questions Questions!!

mmmm its so exciting isnt it!

 

[TJ Lambini]

Well, IF the 8-team X-Ball thing takes off, and Nick makes an X team, then it won't be an issue.

Or if he doesn't, and the NPPL becomes just Am, will Robo's team bother anyway?

Depends what occurs in the next 2 months I guess...

Back to experience - I still think that with Ledz and Jack on-board there's enough experience on-field there...both phenomenal players with loads of history.

 

[Beaker]

Playing Devil's advocate here....

OK, here is one other question:

What would be the alternative(s)?

Robbo went into Xball with a view to giving EVERYONE in the UK a chance at performing with the best to see how they get on. The trials produced many suprises - Tom P, Wayne, Junior, Bowen all really showed & proved themselves there, which their subsequent performances have justified.

If you got many of the other UK "names" who would have any hope of attracting the level of sponsorship necessary, would that have happened? While I personally don't think that Robbo is involved purely as a sponsor generator, if that means he can attract players together to form a better team then the existing mechanism of UK teams why not?

As the team have decided to stay together, on the basis of a tournament which wasn't a "success" would the more experienced players in Chris, Jack, Toye & Truter not have just said "thanks for the vacation, I'm off to play paintball elsewhere".

However the fact that they have all left what could be described as "cushy" numbers in the Tigers/Banzai/Rushers/JCS to take a chance on this team show how good they think it is and can be?

 

[TJ Lambini]

Hang on a minute

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Mardi Gras 2001 Dynasty's first tournament, and they were Am...sometime in 2001 they turned Pro and went onto win the World Cup, and the only players who had played Pro before that season were Chuck Hendsch, Rodney Squires and Glenn Forster.

So, Dynasty win the hardest event in the world with what is ostensibly a young Amateur team with a couple of old Pros...

And that differs from what Robo's doing how, exactly?

 

[Beaker]

...and what is stopping any other UK team/captain/manager from doing the same.

If there is the talent out there, which there surely is (just not in the US's numbers) why isn't there at least one UK side mixing it up with the Yanks and winning?

 

[manike]

Originally posted by Beaker
...and what is stopping any other UK team/captain/manager from doing the same.

Resources. But maybe that is about to change.

 

[Giles]

MMM sorry guys but I do disagree with some of your points
The truth as it stands is do we have the right blend of players to be able to compete
Do we have the right mentor (Pete)


Some people have called me and spoke to me at Campaign and the problem mentioned mostly was that we were missing experience to deal with the situations posed, we misread the format -biggest ouch ever, it was not hard
We missed a lot of experience(dinosaurs as some have written)

We need an impartial person to give there backing to this conquest of Xball and then we will move forwards

No quotes for my previous text ---shame

Would someone care to say whether we may have faired better with the 2 players mentioned--- keep me out of it if you dont mind

Beaker

Let me pick through your quote

Robbo went into Xball with a view to giving EVERYONE in the UK a chance at performing with the best to see how they get on. The trials produced many suprises - Tom P, Wayne, Junior, Bowen all really showed & proved themselves there, which their subsequent performances have justified.

He made it perfectly clear that none of the team he played for would make the squad neither would any of Shockwave apart from the players invited
He himself has trained and played on that squad for over 2 years and if you cannot mould a team in that amount of time what cahnce do you have
Our disagreement was born from this, the previous posts have been deleted from the forum and from this I will not post what happened again

Answer this when you have some of the biggest names in UK ball not prepared to back someone would you not ask why

I am sur ethe players picked all accounted very well for themselves and are looking forward to playing again

I cant answer for each player but I will hazard a guess
What was each of these players doing prior to Xball

Nick-off to the states to play, been with an Am team since he started, Chris-Left Shock and started the great Northern no hope
Sorry its not am insult but where were they going- no sponsors gets a bit heavy on the pocket

Would nt comment on the others as I do not know them well enough to say

TJ

Back to experience - I still think that with Ledz and Jack on-board there's enough experience on-field there...both phenomenal players with loads of history.

No not a chance in hell, lets pick to 2 really great players from an American team and put them with 6 AMS in the states, mmmm, How about pick 4 PROS from the States and mix with 4 ams

sounds a bit better

I have always agreed with the come and play your place on to the team that Pete deployed but he missed the boat with 3 PROS

 

[Giles]

Hang on a minute

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Mardi Gras 2001 Dynasty's first tournament, and they were Am...sometime in 2001 they turned Pro and went onto win the World Cup, and the only players who had played Pro before that season were Chuck Hendsch, Rodney Squires and Glenn Forster.

So, Dynasty win the hardest event in the world with what is ostensibly a young Amateur team with a couple of old Pros...

And that differs from what Robo's doing how, exactly?

Talent perhaps