Ramping - Robbo's Article in PGI 195

[Chicago]

Originally posted by duffistuta
Dear Mr Posterivo,

Sorry, we are banning your hopper.

Yours,

TLTDWTLVL

(The League That Doesn't Want to Live Very Long)

That's Postorivo.

And that rant I had about it all being the players fault...

Let me add to that that the OTHER half of the problem is the people who make the rules about what guns are legal...

...are the people who make the guns.

How assanine is that?

It's like letting Ford tell Nascar what their equipment rules should be.

 

[duffistuta]

Originally posted by Chicago


Let me add to that that the OTHER half of the problem is the people who make the rules about what guns are legal...

...are the people who make the guns.

How assanine is that?

It's like letting Ford tell Nascar what their equipment rules should be.

You think Paintball's unique in that? You know the score...it happens everywhere - Paintball's just smaller so it's more transparent.

Sport, Govt, healthcare, food - big business makes all the calls, only the paper trail is harder to follow.

But that's enough from me or I'll end up sleeping with the fishes...

 

[Flash-Bugout]

I do sometimes wish that people would prioritse some of their energies sometimes, and direct some of it towards that much more real threat to paintball in the UK, solid training rounds.

The home office see paintball the way they do because our ammunition is frangible.

The discovery by the Home Office that people manufacture, sell, buy and use non-frangible ammunition would go down like a nun.

So before we ban force-feeding loaders, lets ban solid "paintballs".

 

[Ben Frain]

Originally posted by Flash-Bugout
I do sometimes wish that people would prioritse some of their energies sometimes, and direct some of it towards that much more real threat to paintball in the UK, solid training rounds.

The home office see paintball the way they do because our ammunition is frangible.

The discovery by the Home Office that people manufacture, sell, buy and use non-frangible ammunition would go down like a nun.

So before we ban force-feeding loaders, lets ban solid "paintballs".

Hang on a minute - these are two spererate issues...

The 'agitating loaders only' argument/suggestion was about making a more even game during tournament play - NOTHING TO DO WITH LEGALITY!

How does that issue relate to solid training balls? How many times have you played against training balls in a tournament??

Think you need to draw some distinction between the seperate issues being discussed.

 

[steven09 (Exodus Capt)]

Ramping is bollocks it's dangerous and takes the skill out of the game....... Robbo's Article Say's it all.

Stevie

 

[Sherman]

Originally posted by steven09 (Exodus Capt)
Ramping is bollocks it's dangerous and takes the skill out of the game....... Robbo's Article Say's it all.

Stevie

Robbo is old skool and old skoolers are against anything new

bolt action to pumps, it takes skill away
pumps to semis, it takes skill away
semi to ramping/fa, it takes skill away

Go try your skills against the F/A players in NXL.

And if this ramping issue is up to the manufactures, we might as well lock this thread, throw the key away and go buy some new boards and more paint!

 

[JoseDominguez]

Hmmm, so ramping is progress? Weird, 'cos I thought it was intended to LIMIT the proliferation of cheat code.
How is reduced ROF progress? I see it as a safety issue anyway. Fixed ramp at 15bps is much safer than the 20+ bps everyone claimed to fire before it

Did I say 20BPS ? I meant to say BS.

 

[Chicago]

Ramping is also about access and preserving the status quo.

Only the "old boy network" pros have access to the best manufacturer-provided cheat boards, giving them an advantage over those who do not.

 

[Flash-Bugout]

Originally posted by Ben Frain
Hang on a minute - these are two spererate issues...

The 'agitating loaders only' argument/suggestion was about making a more even game during tournament play - NOTHING TO DO WITH LEGALITY!

How does that issue relate to solid training balls? How many times have you played against training balls in a tournament??

Think you need to draw some distinction between the seperate issues being discussed.

Not mixing up issues being discussed, just think that we need more effort put towards the legality of the things we shoot, rather than how fast we shoot them.

 

[lettucecheesecake]

To be honest, legal(torny) ramping doesnt bother me as people can hit/''achieve'' higher than 15bps without it.

Its the uncapped,fast as your loader goes,stacking shots,hit the trigger in the rhythm of william tell and the thing goes full auto,35 bps, use 6 aa batterys a tourny coz it loads crazy fast guns than scare me. You know the ones we could use if wanted and people did, before ''legal'' ramping was brought in! And i think/hope people will respect it more than the semi only law.


Now the players on my side that were being outgunned are now full of confidence and playing much better ball.

15bps ramp= my games not changed that much now ive got a few more bps, apart from that its easier to shoot quick and run but this doesent mean im gonna drill some guy in the back/head.

Better players will win games now not the fastest/latest cheat guns.