Oooh...NPPL rankings going into San Diego...

[Intheno]

Triple Tap didn't make it into the event as they failed to register on time, so tyhey can probably be discounted, although I believe they are trying hard to find a place and this still may happen if they find a team willig to sell thier spot.

The refs will need to be really on the ball. They will be asked to make some of the biggest reffing decisions ever in paintball. The Swedes are in town though, so that should take a little pressure off.

 

[woz]

Adjusted Points

Originally posted by JtJ
Just thought I'd share something I drew up for team rankings going into San Diego.

This only covers the first 21 teams (one of which, Hardcore, does not count because they will not qualify for 2K5 NPPL Pro status due to a lack of NPPL showings).

Basically, I took a team's total points and adjusted it so as only to count the top four eligible scores. The scores listed on www.nppl.tv/rankings effectively become the minimum score posible for the team, and the score listed below is the one onto which they will be adding points at San Diego. If the points earned in SD are fewer than any eligible points not in the top four scores, then the team gets whatever is listed on nppl.tv.

This may make no sense to anyone but me, and it may well be inaccurate. If that's the case, sorry for wasting bandwidth.

If anyone finds it useful, great.

Rank Team Adjusted Points
6 Joy 140
7 Dogs 129
8 Redz 113
9 Shockwave UK 95
10 Rage 99
11 Smoke 98
12 Sedition 92
12 Bushwackers 92
13 London Tigers 91
14 Entourage 90
15 Brass Eagle 84
16 TT Flingueurs 79
17 TT Acyd 78
18 Nexus 75
19 HardCore 69
20 Triple Tap 61

For the best part this is true but for the following teams it is not accurate because there minimum score can not yet be calculated because they only have 3 or 4 scores........right?

Entourage (2 scores)
London Tigers (3 scores)
Rage (4 scores)
Smoke (4 scores)
Sedition (4 scores)
Dogs (4 scores)
Infamous (4 scores)

I think its probably more accurate to take off the worst scores from all teams with 5 scores that are playing SD, cos i cant see any of the above teams getting less points than any of the lower teams worst scores.

 

[tony33]

For the best part this is true but for the following teams it is not accurate because there minimum score can not yet be calculated because they only have 3 or 4 scores........right?

That would make it their minimum score since they have no others to add except SD. Jeff is meticulous about his math and his figures equal mine that I did after Spain.

 

[woz]

Originally posted by tony33
That would make it their minimum score since they have no others to add except SD. Jeff is meticulous about his math and his figures equal mine that I did after Spain.

I am not so much disagreeing with Jeffs math more his Formula for accurate scores going into SD

Some teams have 5 scores & may or may not have points to add after SD. So there minimum score can be calculated, but some teams have points to be added on after SD regardless of how many points they score so you cant fairly calculate there minimum score with that formula.........i dont think

So i still think it would be more accurate to take off the worst scores from all teams with 5 scores & are playing SD, cos i cant see any of the above teams getting less points than any of the lower teams worst scores.

Although im not sure i completly understand Jefs post.......... or mine for that matter

 

[sykesg]

Adjusted Points

Originally posted by JtJ
Just thought I'd share something I drew up for team rankings going into San Diego.

This only covers the first 21 teams (one of which, Hardcore, does not count because they will not qualify for 2K5 NPPL Pro status due to a lack of NPPL showings).

Basically, I took a team's total points and adjusted it so as only to count the top four eligible scores. The scores listed on www.nppl.tv/rankings effectively become the minimum score posible for the team, and the score listed below is the one onto which they will be adding points at San Diego. If the points earned in SD are fewer than any eligible points not in the top four scores, then the team gets whatever is listed on nppl.tv.

This may make no sense to anyone but me, and it may well be inaccurate. If that's the case, sorry for wasting bandwidth.

If anyone finds it useful, great.

Rank Team Adjusted Points
6 Joy 140
7 Dogs 129
8 Redz 113
9 Shockwave UK 95
10 Rage 99
11 Smoke 98
12 Sedition 92
12 Bushwackers 92
13 London Tigers 91
14 Entourage 90
15 Brass Eagle 84
16 TT Flingueurs 79
17 TT Acyd 78
18 Nexus 75
19 HardCore 69
20 Triple Tap 61

Just tell me we can't possibly fail to get in and I'll agree with anything you post

 

[tony33]

Basically, I took a team's total points and adjusted it so as only to count the top four eligible scores. The scores listed on www.nppl.tv/rankings effectively become the minimum score posible for the team, and the score listed below is the one onto which they will be adding points at San Diego. If the points earned in SD are fewer than any eligible points not in the top four scores, then the team gets whatever is listed on nppl.tv.

Woz,

I am pretty sure he did that in his math as he took only the top 4 eligible scores. One way to really figure it out is to make the Sunday club and see how and where all the scores fall into then, otherwise it is a how is that team doing and what do we have to do. This event will be a little different as 16 teams will now have the 25 minimum pts for making the cut. This can help some teams and hurt others depending on who makes it. One thing it promises to be a very interesting event.

 

[tony33]

I have a pretty good breakdown in an excel program I did colorcoded and all ...time on my hands at work I guess if any one wants a copy shoot me an email and I'll send it to you on Monday as I am heading out of the office right now. Email addy is tony@redzcomfort.com

 

[woz]

Originally posted by tony33
Woz,

I am pretty sure he did that in his math as he took only the top 4 eligible scores. One way to really figure it out is to make the Sunday club and see how and where all the scores fall into then, otherwise it is a how is that team doing and what do we have to do. This event will be a little different as 16 teams will now have the 25 minimum pts for making the cut. This can help some teams and hurt others depending on who makes it. One thing it promises to be a very interesting event.

I have now done some more math & agree totally with jeff accept for:

Ton Ton 79
Ton Ton Acyd 78

So it would look like this:

Rank Team Adjusted Points
6 Joy 140
7 Dogs 129
8 Redz 113
9 Shockwave UK 95
10 Rage 99
11 Smoke 98
12 Sedition 92
12 Bushwackers 92
13 London Tigers 91
14 Entourage 90
15 Brass Eagle 84
16 Nexus 75
17 TT Acyd 71 (-7)
18 TT Flingueur 70 (-9)
19 HardCore 69 (DQ)
20 Triple Tap 61


Anyway like you say its all guess games, but man if your in the runnings ya just gotta try & work this $hit out, ive been doing it since Madrid

 

[JtJ]

Why did you adjust TTF and TTA?

TTF has 5 total scores.
Three from Europe: 15, 29 and 9. No matter what, that 9 is dropped.
They have two scores from the NPPL: 26 & 9. No matter what, both scores will count.

We already know that, at a minimum, they will count the 35 points from the NPPL and 44 points from the Millennium. That gives them 79 points. No matter what, they cannot end the season with fewer than 79 points. Whatever points they score in SD will be added to that.


TTA likewise has 5 scores:
Three from Europe: 29, 30 and 7. No matter what, the 7 is dropped.
Two from the NPPL: 8 & 11. No matter what, both will count.

We already know that, at a minimum, they will count the 19 points from the NPPL and the 59 points from the Millennium. That gives them 78 points. They cannot finish the season with fewer points.

Tony is right; what I did was create a score onto which the San Diego score will be added. Take whatever a team scores in SD and add it to the scores I listed and you will have the year end total unless the team has a higher eligible score from an earlier event. So, to wit:

Brass Eagle has a minimum of 84 points (counting their 30 pts in HB, 25 in Tampa, 14 in Denver and 15 in Bitburg, which replaces their 7 in Las Vegas). If they go to SD and score 25 points, they'll end up with a year end total of 109. If, on the other hand, they go to SD and earn only 5 seed points, the 7 points they earned in Vegas will be added (as it is an eligible score and is higher than the 5) and they'd end up with 91 points.

I really don't like displaying my nerdiness this openly. You're making it so I don't want to share the Pro division draws for San Diego.....

 

[woz]

Originally posted by JtJ
Why did you adjust TTF and TTA?

TTF has 5 total scores.
Three from Europe: 15, 29 and 9. No matter what, that 9 is dropped.
They have two scores from the NPPL: 26 & 9. No matter what, both scores will count.

We already know that, at a minimum, they will count the 35 points from the NPPL and 44 points from the Millennium. That gives them 79 points. No matter what, they cannot end the season with fewer than 79 points. Whatever points they score in SD will be added to that.


TTA likewise has 5 scores:
Three from Europe: 29, 30 and 7. No matter what, the 7 is dropped.
Two from the NPPL: 8 & 11. No matter what, both will count.

We already know that, at a minimum, they will count the 19 points from the NPPL and the 59 points from the Millennium. That gives them 78 points. They cannot finish the season with fewer points.

Tony is right; what I did was create a score onto which the San Diego score will be added. Take whatever a team scores in SD and add it to the scores I listed and you will have the year end total unless the team has a higher eligible score from an earlier event. So, to wit:

Brass Eagle has a minimum of 84 points (counting their 30 pts in HB, 25 in Tampa, 14 in Denver and 15 in Bitburg, which replaces their 7 in Las Vegas). If they go to SD and score 25 points, they'll end up with a year end total of 109. If, on the other hand, they go to SD and earn only 5 seed points, the 7 points they earned in Vegas will be added (as it is an eligible score and is higher than the 5) and they'd end up with 91 points.

I really don't like displaying my nerdiness this openly. You're making it so I don't want to share the Pro division draws for San Diego.....

My bad, i have done some more math (lots of math) & i can now confirm you are good at math & i am not. I didn't realise that they had already deducted the non-eligable scores yet.

The main reason i doubted your formula was because it sounded like you were saying Teams Min achievable scores would be the 1 on the nppl.tv if they didn't perform as well as previous events & cos i know we are playing in SD are minimum achievable score can not be worked out unless its done on an average, but i think your formula is the most accurate guestimate you can come up with right now.

Jeff i will never again doubt your math & if this is nerdy i am a "NERD"

Woz