Yo Gareth... this is the bit where he gave it away...
Originally posted by BOOGIE
Well yes it is true the only thing i have to watch on markers are 1) full auto 2) ramping markers=change of velocity due to change of dwell.Supposedly well have a chrono to check 30+ shots at a time .
We were supposed to be coming over for Campaign, but it now seems to clash with an NPPL event... So I don't know. I'm still hoping to make it over around then to see my family.
Originally posted by gyroscope
There are democratic governments in charge of a lot of those European countries with the FA prohibitions, right? Meaning, with some effort and public awareness, laws that govern paintball could be changed?
Oh dude! You are funny today.
If most European governments really knew about paintball... I don't even want to go there.
It's not as if our government has a history of knee jerk reactions or anything, or mum's groups have a small majority but overwhelming authority... oh no, not at all.
One of the reasons I decided to leave the UK was to do with how little democracy we were honestly living under. But I digress.
Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
See - the new rules apparently say anything EXCEPT for FULL AUTO is allowed.
And - Euro law says FULL AUTO is illegal.
Does nobody except me see, that there seems to be no problem here ?
It appears however, that some people in Euro paintball has a vastly different definition of FA than the NXL..... and I am most keen to find out what that definition is based upon !
Maybe our only problem is, that nobody in a position of authority in the Millennium Series, has bothered to find out how FA is defined in terms of the law ?
Maybe it turns out that we have been running around banning players and guns for something that was never full auto ??
If we defined Full Auto like the NXL did - our problems would be gone in terms of legality..... provided ofcourse the authorities agreed with our definition..... but if US Insurance companies agree with the NXL definition (which they appear to have, otherwise the PSP events would from now on be un-insured).... then surely various Euro governments would accept the same definition, as nobody are as restrictive in terms as safety, as US Insurance companies.
Nick, the NXL is having a laugh in reality. They are saying that as long as when you 'let go of the trigger the gun stops'... then it's allowed. Sounds like the best definition OF full auto.
But as long as I am making an effort to keep walking the trigger it isn't FA?
That's hysterical. There is no way you can have a gun keep firing while you are walking the trigger in any way that would stop as soon as you release the trigger. There will always be extra shots. Or there wouldn't be any 'enhancement'.
If the letter of that law were followed then NO top end gun would be allowed right now, even with their semi-auto boards, since they absolutely all queue at least one shot.
The NXL is burrying it's head in the sand, and saying 'we won't consider it to be FA unless we hold the trigger back and it keeps firing for ever'.
That's just plain bull****, and if you think you can get any of the authorities, and anyone with a brain to agree with it as not being FA....
Back when the whole mess of turbo happened I looked into what was and wasn't FA.
Pretty simply put, by a nice Fire Arms expert I spoke to who deals in UK firearms and full auto weapons, if you get anything more than one shot per intentional activation of the trigger then it is a Full Auto weapon.
Your trying to skirt around what is and what isn't intentional pulls may cut it within the world of paintball, but not under harsher lights, where they would wonder if you were taking them for fools, and then consider throwing you in jail for 10 years...
I let one guy shoot some of my stuff back then (and this is years ago), he had a lot of fun and said he didn't know how the law would look at it as in reality it would take a court of law to decide. He then pointed out that it would be very stupid to get to a position where that court had to decide. This was close to when all handguns were banned in the UK. Remember what a farce that was?
