Millennium Rules ?

[EGi]

Yeah, head protection should not be disallowed. I actually gave the numbers (the force of a paintball impact) to my dad (he is a neurologist) and there is a severe risk of brain injury if shot multiple times to the head from close distances over time. It works out just the same way as with boxers, at first nothing happens but when you are 40 and retired there is a high risk of brain damage (parkinsons for example). And I know there are old school paintballers who are just fine but on the other hand in the woods you almost never got shot multiple times in the head from point black where as in modern paintball it happens almost every game for somebody.

And still I wear nothing on my head since I hate wearing beanies...


//EGi

 

[Markie X]

Originally posted by Steve Morris
Concerning Buddha 5's beanie question: I won't take the time to look up the rules but I definitely think that padding on heads should be allowed, even made mandatory because severe injuries can result with the high ROF we have these days. (Egi and I had an interesting discussion about this issue about a year ago.)

What should Dye sponsored teams do? Prepare for the jerseys to be phased out. There are a lot of fans who would love to have an official Nexus jersey I would think.

Steve

Are you familiar with the MS rules Steve ?
The snap that is showing also covers the headgear protection.
This section also states that slick surfaces are not allowed but
shinguard may be worn over the clothing.
Still 12 days to go but thank you on your advice what Dye teams should do...

 

[duffistuta]

Shinguards should not be allowed to be worn over clothing - purely on a sartorial basis if nothing else.

 

[Markie X]

Originally posted by EGi
Yeah, head protection should not be disallowed. I actually gave the numbers (the force of a paintball impact) to my dad (he is a neurologist) and there is a severe risk of brain injury if shot multiple times to the head from close distances over time. It works out just the same way as with boxers, at first nothing happens but when you are 40 and retired there is a high risk of brain damage (parkinsons for example). And I know there are old school paintballers who are just fine but on the other hand in the woods you almost never got shot multiple times in the head from point black where as in modern paintball it happens almost every game for somebody.

And still I wear nothing on my head since I hate wearing beanies...


//EGi

i agree but it is not about the head protection, it's about the Dye/Janet Jackson look being there for bounce and the skihat for protection.
Both are not defined in the rules and the same goes for the definition ''padding''
This way we will never get clear rules...

 

[Markie X]

Originally posted by duffistuta
Shinguards should not be allowed to be worn over clothing - purely on a sartorial basis if nothing else.

i agree but i also should be able to ''protect'' my shoulders

 

[cjansen]

Originally posted by Steve Morris
Besides, as I've pointed out already, rules that are ignored breed disrespect for all the rules.

And exactly how much respect will the MS garner by pulling this crap at the last minute? If the last six months wasn't enough time to solidify a rulebook and fill in the gaping holes, how much more time do they need?

You know Steve, we're not all man enough to play in a g-string like you.

 

[Steve Morris]

Originally posted by Markie X
Are you familiar with the MS rules Steve ?
The snap that is showing also covers the headgear protection.
This section also states that slick surfaces are not allowed but
shinguard may be worn over the clothing.
Still 12 days to go but thank you on your advice what Dye teams should do...

No, Markie X, I'm not familiar with the MS rules. Maybe you can teach them to me. (I happen to be trying to keep up this discussion while taking care of two small children. So exsqueeze me if I didn't have the rules memorized or take the time to look them up.)

I couldn't find any specific reference to cranium protection other than headgear not being a specific length. I know that thick caps have generally been allowed and I think they should be for the reasons Egi and I mentioned. I might lobby to have a specific wordíng put into the rulebook.

To answer Chris Jansen:

You might realize that the press release about NPPL and Millennium's joint league came relatively recently as did NPPL's release of their 2004 rules. That hardly gave us 6 months to coordinate and make our rules relatively uniform. I can also tell you about many countless hours that Joern has put into writing of the MS rules and the hours I've put into exchanging e-mails with him helping him fine-tune them. It's also easy to stand outside and say how we in Millennium ought to be more professional and communicate better but the fact is all of us do this mostly in our free time with very little compensation. (Maybe if we succeed in getting the sport televised and bring in outside sponsors we can get full-time paid jobs with this; then there will be no excuse.)

My main point with what I've written in this thread is: get prepared for the rules to either be enforced like they're written or for the rules to be revised. In this case I expect extra-padded garments along with pink and orange to be phased out.

I don't think this is pulling crap at the last minute; I think it is trying to communicate the we are going to try to be more reasonable and consistent with the rules.

Steve

 

[cjansen]

Originally posted by Steve Morris
I don't think this is pulling crap at the last minute; I think it is trying to communicate the we are going to try to be more reasonable and consistent with the rules.

Steve

Steve - I'm not ragging you in particular, but this has been a topic of concern for a long time. And not only does it make it harder on the players to know the rules, but it also makes enforcement by the marshalls inconsistent, which is even worse. At every event last year, the rules varied from field to field, and it's exactly because of things like this.

I know that Joern spent a lot of time working over the rulebook, as he and I talked about it at length, but it doesn't change the fact that those who accept the responsibility have to follow through. It's only fair to the players that it be finalized well in advance of the start of the season, giving the players time to adjust, and the teams that will marshall time to learn them.

Knowing you Steve, I know you're working hard to do the right thing, but you can't eat sh!t with a smile all the time.

 

[Steve Morris]

Originally posted by cjansen
Steve - I'm not ragging you in particular, but this has been a topic of concern for a long time. And not only does it make it harder on the players to know the rules, but it also makes enforcement by the marshalls inconsistent, which is even worse. At every event last year, the rules varied from field to field, and it's exactly because of things like this.

I know that Joern spent a lot of time working over the rulebook, as he and I talked about it at length, but it doesn't change the fact that those who accept the responsibility have to follow through. It's only fair to the players that it be finalized well in advance of the start of the season, giving the players time to adjust, and the teams that will marshall time to learn them.

Knowing you Steve, I know you're working hard to do the right thing, but you can't eat sh!t with a smile all the time.

I might say the same things (maybe I did say the same things?) on that side of the fence.

In any case, Millennium now has a program to bring more consistency to the reffing, namely the professional head field judges and professional field judges. I will do everything I can to ensure field-to-field consistency and rule interpretation.

Steve

 

[Fatty]

Hi steve

i was wondering how you are going to mix Xball and 7 man rules or will you make directly new rules for millenium xball?

also if the no padding at shoulders rule comes is it fine to play with dye tops if you take off shoulder tops?