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Re: Thank you!

Originally posted by sjt19
Why though? Why would they when only 2 Euro Div 1 teams played in their league all year? Hellwood and Scalp. Nobody in their right mind would run the league with more concern for the small Euro contingent than it deserved.

Rubbish. I do not know one team who enters so they may get the chance to get smashed by the pros. Teams enter so that they can be part of a huge event, so that they can win, so that they can gain a place in the series. Not so they get 30 seconds against players who are far better than them. They will look up to the same people they did before, the pro teams.



Have you actually had it confirmed that the NPPL will run a totally separate league for the 18 pros? Has it been confirmed anywhere? At the moment it is just supposition. Untill it has been confirmed then it is not worth debating.



Teams in Euroland will do the Euro NPPL events because they will be the only series running. At the end of the day, if there are 4 NPPL events in Europe teams will play them. 90% of teams could not give a damn where they come in the series, as there were no series prizes last year, they played the events because paintball is their passion. Who runs them, or from where means nothing. Most of the teams at Toulouse, were French, most at CC were from the UK, most at Germany were German. Local teams will always make up the majority in NPPL Euro/MS events. They will not care if they can play the NPPL. No teams (including yours) were bothered about not playing the NPPL last year were they? The only teams who have played the NPPL properly this season, without only playing the minimum 2 events, are Shock and Nexus, playing 4 out of the 5 events, and Joy, Ton Ton playing 3 events.
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That was then, next season is different. The goals have been moved, never mind the goal posts. I think they do give a **** about the small "Euro contingent" as you put it. If its not the Individuals and teams then it's their green folding stuff that interests the promoters. Either way I 'm not bothered as long as they are interested.


It must just be the Jags and me then, I love giving a "Pro" team a bloody nose on the playing field.


So what is it Sam do they play for the series points or do they play for the one off event. You have contradicted yourself again.

We have now thanks TJ

Just climb down off the high horse every now and then Sam; things look different when both feet are on the floor.
 
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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff

The only thing that is frustrating at the moment, is that the lack of concrete information on the 2005 season, is making it a little difficult to make strategies for the coming season with our sponsors.

Nick
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I think that very phrase was posted at the beginning of 2004, seems like a trend!
 
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Re: Re: Thank you!

Originally posted by Chuck

It must just be the Jags and me then, I love giving a "Pro" team a bloody nose on the playing field.
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You are not the only one that likes to beat their Pro, however, at least in SoCal the Div1-3 teams don't go to these events for that one game, I'd venture to guess that's how it is for many of the teams. They go to play good paintball, at a nice event and try to win. It's all about competing, not about one game in the prelims.

My team beat our Pro team three times, brought another down to 2 bodies and got smashed once. It was great to beat those 3 pro teams, and the game that we brought down to 2 was killer, but at the end of the tournament all that mattered was how we played on Sunday in those 3 critical quarters games.
 
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Originally posted by Chuck
Takedown I disagree with you that lower Div teams don't go to big events to play big name teams, true some teams are in it for the series others it may be their once a year shot at a bit of giant killing. But with out the accessible big teams present it is the event that ends up getting marginalized (nice phrase Baca) not the teams.
I know all the Pro teams will be at these events, and I understand the T.V reasoning behind this. But look at what has happened this year with the NXL the locked league bleachers were empty in contrast to the open, which was what everyone did watch.
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There probably are some teams that go out there to play there pro, but I wouldn't think that is the main reason and if all of a sudden no one got to play the pros the events would still be sold out because teams are there to compete not for one game in the prelims.

I think teams should only play within their division. We did it at the last 10-man World Cup before the split, Ams only played Ams on Wednesday and Thursday. Those were the most intense prelims I have ever played/watched because everyone was out to win and a loss to one or two teams in your division could be the end of the tournament, prelims meant so much more then.

At least when teams play within their division there is less "luck of the draw" that could end your tournament before you even stepped foot on the field.

The divisional X-Ball teams only play within their division, it seems to work for them. In the XPSL we only play within our division, that works there. Maybe the NPPL should look at doing that next year.

I think the stands would still be stacked for the very reason TJ posted, because everyone still wants to see Dynasty battle it out with Infamous or XSV match up with Bob's team. There will also be some Div 1 games that get a lot of spectators, but I don't think to the extent where the Pro games will be lacking people watching.
 
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Re: Re: Thank you!

Originally posted by Chuck


1. So what is it Sam do they play for the series points or do they play for the one off event. You have contradicted yourself again.

2. Just climb down off the high horse every now and then Sam; things look different when both feet are on the floor.
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1. I have not contradicted myself at all. I was recognising that there are 2 groups of teams who go to the events for two main reasons. One is the hardcore teams who play every event in the Div 1 section, Hellwood, Jags, Scalp, CD, etc.... and then there are other teams who go to the event because it is their local event eg, Jolt at Campaign etc..... I know of no teams whatsoever who merely go to an event for the one game vs a pro team.

2. I am not on a high horse Chuck. i am being realistic. Buddha, Ron (Takedown) and TJ are all saying the same thing i am. Does my being younger than them prevent my posts from the same kind of validity when we are all saying the same thing? You said you were in an unfair position, said there was a bias. Clearly there is not, conditions are the same for everyone. It is an American series, based in America. If anything the series is allowing bias towards the Euro teams by allowing Euro results to count for the series, even when only a few US events are attended. Tickets round trip from the USA are more expensive than tickets booked in the UK. Is there a bias against US teams by allowing results to count from a series they have not enough funds to get to? No.
 
Chuck

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Martin has taken my shovel away! So the hole I was digging myself into cannot get any bigger.
(I still dont agree though) :)

Sam will you be at the D7's on sunday? If so we can carry on there, then if I don't convince you I can just "discipline" you with the help of Mr Fist!


:p




Takedown, that sounds like a plan.

Peace

Chuck
 
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