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james adkin

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Originally posted by Rob (impact uk)
Fester i assume you play for storm pro the game i watched between storm and ectasy on the smart parts field was a complete joke your guy on the second line 50 was clearly shot on the neck (no neck protector must of felt it) what did he do ? walk off the field, no he carried on playing for approximatly 2 minuits before it was noticed and he was pulled.
What did your captain do when you lost, moan and bitch about fair play and injustice, you lost and deserved to in my oppion.
marshalling is tough espeicially in those sort of conditions think you can do better step up to the plate
I watched that game, I was standing next to the Impact guys and saw the hit go in- the player flinched, so he knew he had been hit, whether it burst or not he may not have been able to tell, but he still played on. Had that of been a millennium event he may well have been one4oned.

At the end of the day guys the marshelling may be bad, but people only complain if the marshalls are bad and players of the other team get away with cheating - i mean have you heard anyone complain that they were allowed to play on with a hit or whipe a hit off?????:rolleyes:

Anyway what would you prefere - the M25 events or back to playing at temple??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

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I watched that game, I was standing next to the Impact guys and saw the hit go in- the player flinched, so he knew he had been hit, whether it burst or not he may not have been able to tell, but he still played on. Had that of been a millennium event he may well have been one4oned.

WOW, If that S**T is going on then there is no future for Paintball at all...........:(
 

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HI JAMES

YOU AND I Well know as do others
how players had to stand in mud so deep you it flowed over ya trainer boots, wood shacks to kit up in and the dreaded chemi loos
so do you want to go back to that, i dont. Even though temple was good fun and its where i started my torni life with the old grim reapers. well weve come a long way, and for the better i say
AS OTHERS HAVE SAID JUST TEATHING PROBS
 

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Heidi using Yorkies stuff

"and then there's also having one of our back players one for oned due to over aggressive play even though the reasoning behind this was the team in question had one player left and he began to walk drudgedly from his barracade with his armband still on towards the dead zone our player gave him a couple of extra balls due to not knowing whether the player was still in the game or not and was told 141 which was for over aggressive play even though these players where both back men so the impact could not have been that bad.have the marshall's never heard of deadman's walk like,"
In the rules it does state.
M25 Series Rules
section4 Elimination
A player is considered to be eliminated from the game in the following circumstances.
4.1.7 If they call themselves out or hit, or act in such a way as to indicate to the other players and judges that they have been eliminated e.g. raising their arm above their head.
4.2 On elimination, players must immediately leave the playing area by the nearest boundary and make their way to the dead zone.They....... should hand in their arm bands to the nearest judge provided this will not interfere with play in any way.
My question is this why should you run in on a player that knows he has been eliminated and indicated to the whole team and opposition that clearly he had been eliminated by the "raising of his hand" therefore the "dead mans walk" would have been considered "playing on" and that player instead would have been subject to penalty, is this not correct?

"in the rules does it say you have to have 30 seconds then 10 and then game one because i think that sparklie should tell all the marshalls how the games should start. the break outs were different on all the fields"

Yes it does
Game rules 1
1.1.3 A 30 second warning to be given before game start, followed by a 10 second warning then " Game On ".:D
I'm sorry to be picky but with all my inexperance i want to make sure that it's not just the players that know the rules!:rolleyes:
 

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I expected better from Paintballers.

(This is not Yorkie, this is Lisa first time spectator at a paintball event)

What a dreadful shame to hear all of this bitching and moaning from people who DID NOT marshall and neither did they stop cheating long enough to appreciate what was being done.

Constructive crit. is always welcomed by professionally minded marshalls but this goes beyond the pale. Those marshalls worked damned hard to make it a good day for everyone in the blazing hot sun (33 deg btw) and with a lack of breaks that is ILLEGAL.

If you don't like it then you do it.

How dare you tear them down to cover your own cheating?

It sounds like a bunch of sore losers.

Watch out because pissing a marshall off will just make them that much more hard on you next time and seeing as you say they are 'easy' on the calls, you should be a lot happier when they are that much more strict.

It's terrible that you can marr an event this way with your bitterness.

*shakes head in disbelief*

I expected better from Paintballers.
 

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well sjt i agree

Originally posted by jinx76

and then there's also having one of our back players one for oned due to over aggressive play even though the reasoning behind this was the team in question had one player left and he began to walk drudgedly from his barracade with his armband still on towards the dead zone our player gave him a couple of extra balls due to not knowing whether the player was still in the game or not and was told 141 which was for over aggressive play even though these players where both back men so the impact could not have been that bad.have the marshall's never heard of deadman's walk like,

Being as this has been brought up, i'll answer it as i made the call.

The player that was walking called himself out for a hit that i didn't see happen (big up to him for that) he then left his barricade with his arm up (not on his head as i would prefer all players to do) as i went over to get his armband he was hit by several balls from your player, which i ignored. as i got to him (by the side of the DEAD BOX both he and myself were hit by a hail of paint from the same player that had shot him earlier. Now, to my mind the first set of extra shots were insurance, the second set was overzealous, so i pulled the player concerned. The reason why i pulled him was explained to him at the end of the game.

Yes i have heard of dead mans walk (i've used them in the past myself) but this was not one, your player was just a little over enthusiastic, it happens, accept the call and move on. It didn't alter the games ending as you still had 5 players left(if i remember correctly)and had beat them fair and square.

Thats it on this entire subject for me. Overall i enjoyed the day and i would consider doing it again. The venue was great, the weather was nice (better hot than cold and damp), most players were good and i even enjoyed some of the arguements:D

See ya all soon
Alien
 

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Originally posted by Rob (impact uk)
Fester i assume you play for storm pro the game i watched between storm and ectasy on the smart parts field was a complete joke your guy on the second line 50 was clearly shot on the neck (no neck protector must of felt it) what did he do ? walk off the field, no he carried on playing for approximatly 2 minuits before it was noticed and he was pulled.
guys....fester does not play for storm pro for the record!!!

i cant remember whether that was me that had the hit in my neck (well just below my ear) but in one game, it may have been that one i dont know. but i can honestly say i did not feel the hit and i can explain why! i have had a major painfull wisdom tooth for four days now and by the time i played on Sunday i had taken my full dose of iboprofin (spell?) and paracetamol combo, so you could have kicked me in the nuts and i would not have felt it! the reason i would have flinched would probably have been because i saw the paint coming in and got outta they way - if it was me that you saw (cos i honestly cant remember) then i obvoiusly didnt get outta the way quick enough, and appologise for the situation.

just goes to show how good these painkillers really are, cos when the judge said to me your hit on the neck i made him prove it by wiping me and showing the shell and fill on his hand!

i have not dissed any marshalls, and nor will i cos as has been said on a couple of occasions, we had bad calls against us and bad calls for us, and that is paintball - until someone invests a few million quid in virtual judging technology we gonna have to accept that these people are trying their hardest!

if us players stopped pushing the rules to breaking point we would not have these probs!!
 

james adkin

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Thats a very true coment about pushing rules - i suppose in any sport people push the rules. We will end up having drug testing before events soon
 

jinx76

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heidi this is for you!!!

yorkie knows our boys pretty well by now and would know that we would never be over aggressive as was claimed especially as we are talking about a player who was on the other end of the field so seeing him at the best of times is hard let alone coating him in paint,

i do not wish to start an argument on this subject as it is just another one of those calls but the better the judging gets the the better the tourneys will be the more pro/am a teams will turn up and thats better for sparklie and the series i would have thought ???

and this is coming from a team who had to play in div 5 on sun due to the volume and class of teams???

looking forward to the next one cause like we've said b4 it's a learning curve.

anyway by for now folks got new flat to move into so practice only for me this month :((((:)mad: :confused: