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Gyroscope

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Shamu, if the hampering factor in players' games is the inability to shoot while reloading, they learn to do that. One of my anchors is so natural at it you can't tell when he's loading without watching him.


You are exactly right about the bounce/wipe/crutch thing. I suspect most people are weak sometimes, but that is what it is.
 

joe bob

copyright '03
sorry bout the randomness...

josedomingez, the trigger is being phisicly pulled

think outside the box!

back on topic,

since my gun is so slow (I might get 9 bps tops), in a 10-15 minut game ,playing front, I might have to relode once, so I could have the upperhand on the dude with the impy:D
 

shamu

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Originally posted by gyroscope
Shamu, if the hampering factor in players' games is the inability to shoot while reloading, they learn to do that. One of my anchors is so natural at it you can't tell when he's loading without watching him.
Gyro - you're lucky to have him. I've put a lot of work into being able to shoot and load simultaneously. What surprises me is how many high level players can't/don't do this. Either they can do it and choose not to, or they don't think about it, but watching NPPL all season long I didn't see many people shooting and loading.

Oh yeah, if you play the NPPL again this year stop by and say hello ;)
 

JoseDominguez

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Originally posted by joe bob
sorry bout the randomness...

josedomingez, the trigger is being physicly pulled

think outside the box!

back on topic,

since my gun is so slow (I might get 9 bps tops), in a 10-15 minut game ,playing front, I might have to relode once, so I could have the upperhand on the dude with the impy:D
no it isn't, if you can truly fire the marker by running your finger up and down, then you are not pulling the trigger...... it's not rocket science, a two bump trigger is "fanned" legally because it has time to return between the bumps and be pulled back again (pull-return-pull)....... for a 5 bump trigger to fan fire it would have to be set so short it wouldn't be legal..... it would fire every time you moved the thing. No marshal would allow a marker that fired five times from one rub down the trigger.
And what's all this crap about it taking out the front man? all players can use the same kit, so one teams advantage is cancelled out by the other.......... 25bps? big deal, the backmen just keep each other in don't they. It would only be unfair if only one team had them.
 

Greg

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RIGHT!!!!

Now then, where to begin!

take a stopwatch, see how many times one can pull a trigger in a second! there is no way in hell anyone can realistically get over 14 bps in real time! Think about it! most markers still run on gravity (with the exception of the warp feed and some EVI 2) the ball will not have time to reach the chamber to get get off a clean shot!
I have seen the vid of the eblade doing some SILLY bps but it was only shooting to just above the stack.

If we went higher in rof, injuries will start to crop up and then legal battles will more than likely ensue. FULL AUTO IS ALSO ILLEGAL IN THE UK!!!

In response to sam (sjt19) buddy - the other dude is right you can be as fit and as fast as u want but the equipment has to be in calibration to everyone elses to an extent! heres an example -

1/4 mile drag racing! - VW GOLF GTI nice street car, few nice mods will kick it up (180 bhp) VS. '69 Dodge Charger tuned 6.9 v8 hemi lump (600+bhp)!


Who is gonna have more of a chance!!!!!! That is why they race against cars in there own engine size and category!

Keep it real guys! Just play the game and love it for what it is!

Id there were an rof limit i think all the guns we currently have have reached the limit!

Time to develop homing balls!

stay chilled dudes!!!:) :cool:
 

Gyroscope

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Shamu, I'll say "hi" a few times, then- I am playing with Sharp Shooters Grey this year in the NPPL.

I would feel more lucky to have the guy with the smooth reloading if he were 75 pounds lighter. :rolleyes: We all have our cross to bear, I guess.
 

Collier

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The big red chrony says I can hit 17bps with my vik. The sound clips that I've seen show that more then 14 bps is very possible. And 'most people' aren't using gravity feed, I'd say a lot more were using Halo's and eggs now.

So in 100m sprinting how do they deal handicapps? The technology is allready limiting the speed we can fire, by the hoppers.

In sustained ROF no-one is getting higher BPS then 24 at a max, I wanna see vid clips with paint to proove me wrong. :)

Paul
:)
 

JoseDominguez

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spot on Paul. Everyone stop complaining and buy a decent marker :) there isn't that much difference between the top and bottom end (price wise) not like in other tech sports (motor racing etc) the best marker sets you back £600 more than a basic one.......so what's the problem? if you expect to compete then you have to have comparable kit. The E-blade, Angel, Impy, etc..... are all capable of lunatic fire rates. My Timmy registers me at 14 bps on it's internal monitor..... (using a halo).
And as for needing to spend a fortune? you don't, read Paul's post..... he was using a viking...... all cash paid out for performance and one of the most cost effective ways of owning a scary marker.
The top end kit is very accessible..... you can pick up and E-blade second hand for £600.
And BPS is limited by the rules............ ONE PULL ONE SHOT for god's sake..... how does being able to fire 24 bps make it less safe than 15? come on explain how someone is going to accidentaly pull the trigger 24 times! or are we talking overshooting on the field? well in that case the rules already cover that. I think we are confusing a marker technically capable of firing 40 bps with a marker set up to make it physically possible.
Take high performance cars......... able to do 120....... but that's not legal so why do they have that? because that gives them an engine able to perform better across the legal speed range. Same for a marker.......... I know that every time I pull the trigger my E-blade/ Timmy or shocker will fire a ball........ I can't out shoot them......... but it happens with my cocker sometimes. I can't use 30 bps, but I appreciate the performance it gives my marker.
I'm happy to say that when I'm taken out, it's either my own fault or due to the ability of the other player, I'm not going to belittle that whining about other peopls kit being better.
Take up pump or stock......... I really mean this.. there seem to be enough people complaining about it......aren't there enough to form a league? With a capped level of kit? could be cool.
 

Greg

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you guys are talkin ****

wtf is this 24 bps

no one can shoot that, i dont care what your chrono says. it is physically impossible to "activate" the trigger 14 times in one second.

maybe people could just learn to shoot a gun accurate, instead of having to layer the field in paint.

dont get me mistaken for someone who cant shoot fast though. i just wanna get rid of the ideas that people can legally shoot over 14,15 bps

:rolleyes: