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sjt19

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Originally posted by Sephiroth
just a sec... i can seem to remember a new loader design that can potentaly load 90 bps!(atleas i think it was)
Once again dude......I think not:rolleyes: :p
 

ericostani

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anyway......

what are people's thoughts on the future of paintball and the markers.....are they gonna carry on to become faster and faster, and turn into quite a static game, or will a ruling come into play,.... or is it not physically possible for a human to fire any faster legally?
also theres always gonna be cheats about-its near impossible to stop, so isnt limiting a good thing to prevent bouncing guns etc......

Eric.
 

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If EVERY marker was checked & then tagged, somehow, at the start of a tourney, surely bouncy triggers & dodgy boards would be eliminated ?

Why complain about ROF anyway ? If you think it's a problem, spend a few hundred hours practicing yourselves & then keep the quicker guy's heads down with 24 or 25 BPS. Faster markers will not make the game static IMO, everyone will be proportionally faster ie, guys firing at 10 bps may achieve 16bps & guys presently getting 16 bps could get 24 or so, so it wo't really make that much difference.

Going back to trigger bounce, one of my teammates brought up a subject at the last training, which seems relevant here:- if trigger bounce is totally illegal, are all RT Pro Automags, automatically banned from tournament play, seeing as how they actually rely on trigger bounce to function? What about tippman A5's with reactive triggers? I know there's not many of either on the circuit, but I did see quite a few of both at Simply The Best Speedball this year. As a marshall at this event, & knowing about this phenomenon, I was put in a dilemma. As it was I kept schtum, but should I have banned the respective players?

As for "fanning" triggers, a case in point is the new "wheely" triggers, that are specifically designed to be used this way. I can't for the life of me rememner who designed or makes them, but they have been totally banned from all tournaments (so I heard)
Therefore "fanning" as a method of trigger control must also have been banned (which has p*issed a teammate off, he's just ordered one for his X-Mag!!!:rolleyes: )

Just my 2p
 

Collier

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Robtattoo

RT's or any marker with a reactive trigger aren't banned as such but they must be set up so they will not go reactive, for most of these markers that's just a case of running them at a lower input pressure.
I heard somewhere about the trigger mod you were talking about it, think it was called a roller trigger, I'm sure I heard these are illegal in tounaments.

Paul
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First, this sport is already outta hand.

Second, front players still have a place in the game. They, after all, get to shoot these same guns. I play front, and I suggest doing this- learn to shoot as you run. That guy shooting your lane will have to go in, you will get to you secondary, you will wrap the outside, and shoot him in the butt. What fun!
 

garycarrot

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If firepower wasnt an issue, we would all still be using automags!

When the electro's (Angel for the most part) first started to appear. We all ditched the trusty mags and cockers, to be able to fire faster.

The trend still continues today, people want the fastest. Just the way it is.

Someone shooting at 40bps would soon run out of paint, or air!
 

ChiZZerS

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anyway......

Originally posted by ericostani
what are people's thoughts on the future of paintball and the markers.....are they gonna carry on to become faster and faster, and turn into quite a static game, or will a ruling come into play,.... or is it not physically possible for a human to fire any faster legally?
also theres always gonna be cheats about-its near impossible to stop, so isnt limiting a good thing to prevent bouncing guns etc......

Eric.
the more advanced the technology in a marker gets..
the more people will mess with it...

here is a thing for smartparts to patent ;)
if they do go far.. (well i think) the guns will be computerrised.
it will go less mechanical....
computerised (digital) pressure guage
computerised (digital) velocity adjuster

the whole gun will be a computer... and people will install softwhere to make the guns run super fast!(fa)...

as for the speed... i dont think they will og any faster
a gun can only shoot as fast as a human...
 

shamu

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look at it this way....

- faster trigger means hopper is empty quicker
- empty hopper means it's time to reload
- since most people can't load and shoot at the same time, it's a nice opportunity to move up and/or shoot someone while they're loading

To quote Monty Python:
Always look on the bright side of life :D


The game's been getting progressively faster for years - guns, loaders, players, etc. Things change and players adapt, so I don't think the speed of guns is going to kill the game. But it's a safety issue for sure.

IMHO, if you have to set your trigger to bounce like Tigger to get that extra 2 - 3 bps, that's sad. Go practice and learn to shoot faster. Bouncy triggers are like wiping - a sign that you suck and need a crutch to compete.