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evil sharks matt

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I agree with Sam, it takes a decent amount of skill to fire a gun fast and stay tight and accurate.
If you have that advantage beause you have practiced hard then so what
 

Tom Allen

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Sam with the greatest of respect, we are talking about paintball, not football, rugby, ect. We are using an electro-mechanical device which is subject to many methods of cheating. Would you remove the trigger bounce rule...NO!!!. So why do you find it strange that rules need to be there to regulate the sport. Markers and hoppers are getting faster and faster, it may end up being a safety issue.
 

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i dont think that rules are out of place, just LIMITING what a player is allowed to do is. I think that the bounce rules are correct, as are regulations on fire modes. ONE pull for ONE shot is the way it should be, but if a player is able to get around 18 bps then congrats to him. Its not as if using a legit firing method (ie no burst/bounce) players will be able to fire more than that consistently in a game. i cant see hoppers getting any faster than they are now. So why limit ROF when there are things like bouncing guns and illegal modes that are in operation that the scrutineers would be far better spending their time on policing?
 

evil sharks matt

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As long as its one pull = one shot then thats all fine in my book, if people have bouncing guns they will be busted.
 

Tom Allen

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I'm all for promoting skill levels and highlighting personal skill, but rof is being helped along a little, by "adventurous software". If it was just the ability to fire fast, then there would be no problem, but it isn't, and it would be naive to say otherwise.
 

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Originally posted by Tom Allen
I'm all for promoting skill levels and highlighting personal skill, but rof is being helped along a little, by "adventurous software".
Mate, thats what i was saying! Eliminate the software rather than limit the ROF, thats all. Time would be better spent sorting out gun cheats, not hammering those who have learnt to fire fast through hours of trigger time and practice

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If it was just the ability to fire fast, then there would be no problem, but it isn't, and it would be naive to say otherwise.
You are assuming a lot there, with a sweeping generalisation. I have NO cheats on my gun, yet can fire fast, and there are guys who touch my gun and make it fire even faster, good luck to them, dont penalise them cos they can do something few other people can do
 

JoseDominguez

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Name and shame then...... I'm not aware of anyone who cheats with software, if you know who is, I'd like to know too. Unless you are just speculating.
ROF will always be limited by human reaction time, no matter how fast the marker fires, synapses won't keep up, and it makes no difference to safety.......... any misfire in a safe area is bad.... but how would a higher ROF make any difference? a mistake won't pull the trigger 50 times.
Oh and as for feed rates....... the Q-loader claims 30 to 50 depending on set up.
 

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i know what you mean, saying its fair enough if you can shoot that fast, but there are different techniques, like triggers you run your finger up and down, now surely they will shoot uber fast with little skill, and that would need limiting....right?
or you think not?
i reckon people are gonna find legal ways of maying their guns go even faster.
 

JoseDominguez

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Nope, if the marshals are on the ball it gets stopped, so no manufacturer is going to make an illegal marker........ as soon as it's spotted it's gone.
Ever had your marker checked at a big tourney? I've got a feeling you haven't as you'd be aware of this.
The alternate firing methods you've mentioned are limited, they are against the rules......... one PULL one ball..... and any decent marshal will spot dodgy triggers. This includes bounce and sideways travel, so as long as the rule is one PULL one ball we are fine and limited by human reaction time.