Ben, try to be a LITTLE less all encompassing in your posts. You just implied that everyone else who posted here is a lefty who believes what Auntie Beeb tells us - well think a bit harder about MY post. Then read my sig - no, it's not a joke I really mean it. You want to follow stuff like "when in Rome" - go back far enough & you'll see that our current values are nothing like they were 1500-1600 years ago, they were imposed on the population of this island by a very small minority of the powerful following THEIR religious beliefs. All cultures change over the years according to how their population changes.Originally posted by Ben Frain
Feck it, I know I said I'd leave it but I just can't...
Why is it so hard to understand. Bottom line is I don't give an arse about the specifics of a religion nor do I give a squirt about colour.
The only issue I have is integration. All this 'we have been living as one big happy family for the last 50 years' is garbage. I take it you don't live in Oldham?
I just expect people to abide by the adage 'When in Rome, do as the Roman's do' - that's all. For example I don't want english schools speaking different languages than english - where's the integration in that? How does that make us a community? Why is that so unreasonable?
What cracks me up is all you lefties watch Farenheit 9/11 and just because Michael Moore tells you something you think it must be true. You think it makes you intellectually superior in some way to sit in the middle of issues with no plan or solution to the problems at hand.
I'm not saying there aren't things that are utter tosh on both sides of the fence but please, just because aunty beeb gives you a opinion to have, doesn't mean I have to swallow it.
You are guilty of exactly the same ignorance and wholehearted acceptance of others opinions and spin that you accuse me of.
I understand about areas where there is a problem with integration of racial minorities, I used to work very near to Brixton in the years before the riots there. But at the same time, I've worked with, for or been a manager to people of many different colours, cultures and religions and the vast, and I mean vast, majority of these people just want to live their lives in peace. Don't make the mistake of judging the silent majority by the actions and words of the radical few.
Due to public ignorance and people listening to the media, I have been accused in the past of being a Satanist, of promoting sacrifice of babies, putting curses on people and of being just downright evil. Whatever I do must be wicked by definition, even if it is doing good for others and causing no harm to anyone. Apparently I have no chance of not burning in the fires of a hell I don't even believe in. So do you now understand why I jump to the defence of people being pigeonholed on the basis of someone's incomplete understanding of their beliefs? You have met me Ben - did I really strike you as someone evil through and through? But listen to the general public's idea of "people like me" and that is what I am.
Edit: BTW, I have also not seen Farenheit 9/11 and have no wish to, and find most conspiracy theorists a source of entertainment