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Manning26

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Okay, Cow wussed out and had to go eat dinner or something. As I just told him though, I think this debate has come down to quality versus quantity.

How can we grab more ACTUAL POSTERS without dumbing down the forum?

By the by, I'm glad I'm American, it allows me to be as cynical as I like.;)
 

Baca Loco

Ex-Fun Police
Originally posted by Buddha 3
1- No divide? What the hell? You were talking about a North American part, and a rest of world part. That's not only a divide, that's elitist!
2- There probably are better ways to invite folks in. But I don't think your vision is gonna do that.

(3) So even high minded posts concerning tournament paintball, should be in tournament (the title says it all). Could be though that I completely misunderstand what you mean by high minded, but I doubt that.

(4) Perhaps we do have a relatively high threshold, but is that bad per se? It keeps a lot of garbage outside. Look at most other popular paintball forums, they got nothing on us. The ones with the lowest threshold are also the ones with the biggest piles of **** in their posts.

(5) If you are to imply the divide between US and rest of world paintball as you proposed initially, sure, people will have to accept it, and posts will be made in their appropriare places, but you will see less and less post from Euro types in the US section, and vice versa. And that stinks.

(6)Because that is what at the moment makes these forums THE place to be.
OK, the PSP thing was a low blow. Apologies.:)
1--it's simple demographics and it also included a modification of what Tourney Forum posts would accept so that they would soon resemble what Tourney used to look like making it an obvious "gateway" forum and not a content forum. Change in conception.
2--then let's hear some alternative.
3--but not all high-minded pball related posts are Tourney related either so if content rich postings were "moved" to Speak it would open the category up. How often do people preface a post with, "I'm not sure if this belongs here or not--" [And most of the stuff in Speak now would go to 'Blather' . . .]
4--high threshold ain't bad for us but that ain't the point. That we enjoy the site isn't its primary purpose. Thank you, Rancid the Benificent.
5--hope previous points clear that up.
6--oh yeah? with 4K members? I don't think so. Well, I do but--

[Spirit Buddha, just cause I can...:D and no, I didn't change anything]
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
Originally posted by Baca Loco
OK, the PSP thing was a low blow. Apologies.:)
1--it's simple demographics and it also included a modification of what Tourney Forum posts would accept so that they would soon resemble what Tourney used to look like making it an obvious "gateway" forum and not a content forum. Change in conception.
2--then let's hear some alternative.
3--but not all high-minded pball related posts are Tourney related either so if content rich postings were "moved" to Speak it would open the category up. How often do people preface a post with, "I'm not sure if this belongs here or not--" [And most of the stuff in Speak now would go to 'Blather' . . .]
4--high threshold ain't bad for us but that ain't the point. That we enjoy the site isn't its primary purpose. Thank you, Rancid the Benificent.
5--hope previous points clear that up.
6--oh yeah? with 4K members? I don't think so. Well, I do but--
Baca, what I find funny is that you LOOK like you're sticking to your guns, but when reading through the lines you are actually taking a more temperate stance. You big girl, you're wussing out! :D
1- Demographics do not automatically mean that it will make for an interesting forum. But let's see if you can make it clearer by you providing us with an example lay out of what you have in mind. Because what you are proposing now, sounds a whole lot different from what you started out shouting.
2- Never said I knew all the answers. But I do at times know what won't work.
3- Never argued with that, did I? If it's tourney related, it should be in tourney. If it's not, it should be someplace else. That's so obvious, that you and I have just wasted prescious parts of our lives by typing in what never should have been typed in.
4- Then what IS the point? I agree, bigger numbers would be nice, but it's only a means, not a goal.
5- Not yet. Let's see what you're talking about first.
6- I agree that 4k isn't a whole lot compared to some other forums, but you seem to agree that most of those forums pale when their contents are compared to this one. And I agree that it's worthwhile to increase the numbers while at the same time maintaining high standards.
The way you are now coming up with what seems to be far more nuanced plans doesn't sound near as bad as what you first blurted out. So like I said, show us the stuff, big boy.
 

Syd (NSPL)

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Only half following this thread, 'cause the mods have gone crazy and seem to have some very specific opinions about things (which is weird considering how this thread started), BUT... I'm getting some vibes about splitting up the Tournament thread.

Are you mad? That thread has been as slow as a ten-ball smeg trying to make its way out of a freak system lately. Diluting the content of an already slow thread is not going to help bring in more members.

And, I saw a comparison between 4k of members and 40k .... is quantity better than quality? Not in my opinion.

I've got to ask why this thread was started and why a particular mod (ahem... no names mentioned) has so vehomently stood his ground on certain issues. Is it to get our opinions or a half-hearted gesture before changes come in that were decided a week ago?

Synical? Yes - but hey, I'm a Brit... check that humour! And no... we're not all CUTE! Geeze.
 

Manning26

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Syd (SPWL)
Only half following this thread, 'cause the mods have gone crazy and seem to have some very specific opinions about things (which is weird considering how this thread started), BUT... I'm getting some vibes about splitting up the Tournament thread.
Yeah, maybe we should've had our debate on a fresh thread.

Originally posted by Syd (SPWL)
Are you mad? That thread has been as slow as a ten-ball smeg trying to make its way out of a freak system lately. Diluting the content of an already slow thread is not going to help bring in more members.
Yes, it's slow, but, in theory, more people= more posters= busier forum. Okay, I was answering for Cow there, I agree it's a bad idea.

Originally posted by Syd (SPWL)
And, I saw a comparison between 4k of members and 40k .... is quantity better than quality? Not in my opinion.
There's an echo in here.

Originally posted by Syd (SPWL)
I've got to ask why this thread was started and why a particular mod (ahem... no names mentioned) has so vehomently stood his ground on certain issues. Is it to get our opinions or a half-hearted gesture before changes come in that were decided a week ago?

Synical? Yes - but hey, I'm a Brit... check that humour! And no... we're not all CUTE! Geeze.
This is an earnest attempt to improve p8ntballer, and who ever said Brits were cute? Okay, the ladies on this forum are cute, of course.;)