Campaign Marshalling merged threads

[camsmith]

Originally posted by cockersrule
so ill ask again as no one noticed

can you be 1-4-1'd etc if one team bonus balls every player on the other team like 20 times?

It depends on your definition of bonus balling. Effectively, it is up to the marshall. I don't know your exact situation, but in the past you have mentioned that you can outshoot an egg. With that rate of fire, it would be concievable to have roughly 20 balls in the air at any time.

If you say that it takes the marshall .2 seconds to call the elimination and the firer .1 seconds to react, that's another 7 or 8 balls on their way after the first ball has hit. On top of that, it takes a marshall a little time to check that the first one hits you, and not the barricade or ground near you...

All I can say is it's a tricky call, but perhaps you need to consider yourselves worthy opponents if the team gave you that much lovin!

(Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning bonus balling, just pointing out one side of the coin)

 

[DOA Robbo]

Field 7 was slow i got a hit in the face mask made my bunker and was screaming at the ref to check me it took him for ever and the hit had bounced by the time he checked me the other team had moved right up and i got taken out!! Didn't play field 2 but watched a loada games and the guys worked there butts off and our game on 4 was also well judged.

Our 2 games on 8 were also good

Judging is never easy so well done guys

 

[The Mighty Dwarf]

My rookie team was 1-4-1 for a reason that 3 teams watching could not work our our player was hit on the glove looked down checked it had broke went to walk off and was 1-4-1 , the judge could not answer why he had done it , Doh, other than that all the fields we played we had no probs. Good to see sam again and all the other teams, thanks you for all your support .

 

[Urban]

To the best of my knowledge I don't think Apocalypse had any major issues with any of the marshalls all weekend.. couple of what we considered to be bad calls but then I tend to find that most teams think they get a couple of bad calls over the course of a tournament.

The marshalls on field 2 particularly impressed... one who, after we cleaned out the last two Monkey Love players, followed us back to the flag hang to make sure Gurney didn't get pulled for paint that was all over his right side from playing tight against a tea-bag. That may be normal behaviour but I don't play many major tournaments so that stood out for me..

All in all a very good weekend, even though we played worse than we have ever done before.... roll on 2004..

Urban

 

[cjansen]

marshalls

Originally posted by pbsmoker
You are right, your not obligated to check someone every time a call is asked for, but you are obligated to do your job. I played that field 4 times, by the fourth time I played that field i was so fed up with the lack of movement, or even overall performance on your part, that is when I got upset.

The team I guested for never calls out or screams on the field for a paint check or any of the other distracting things that most other teams do. So to only hear one check during a game, I think that it wouldnt kill you to at least do that.

1. I don't have to justify anything to you, but I feel pretty good about the job we did, so I'll break it down for you.
2. There are many reasons for non-movement - First is that there was no need to move and check a player because he hadn't been hit, or even had paint come close to him. Trust me, marshalls see a lot more than the players do, and what you think you saw isn't always correct. Second is that we tried to do our best to NOT give away peoples positions, which has been a gripe of a lot of players (including myself), and had a very good system established for which marshalls cover which positions, with everyone overlapping to see both sides. If someone else saw something that someone else missed, we would call to that position for the check. And as a part of this, we intentionally tried to keep our heads from staring at players as much as possible. And with more than half of us wearing a tinted lens, you have no idea what we're looking at. Players like to use the marshalls to find other players, so we didn't think that we needed to assist you in clearing the field. Third is that just because you couldn't see a marshall watching/checking a player, doesn't mean that it wasn't/hadn't happened. And if there wasn't a marshall on him at that moment, he was probably checking someone else. We are not obligated to inform you that the player will be checked, is being checked, or has been checked. He's in the game or he's not, and when we see him hit, we'll pull him, but we're not going to assist you by saying that he's being watched or checked. You can look for yourself.
3. I would say 8 out of 10 paintchecks requested BY PLAYERS resulted in the check of a player who was clean.

I'm sorry that you didn't get what you wanted, but we can see what's going on a whole lot better than you can. And this is not to say that we were perfect, because I know that we weren't. And some people didn't like us because we were very strict, and 100% by the rules. Again, not my problem if you didn't like it.

Feel free to bitch about us, but this is my last on the subject.

 

[Andy]

Most of the fields were fine- you always get the one bad call- only fields we didnt play was raven and x ball

was watching the raven field- how far away can you be from you hopper if you drop it???

 

[QuackingPlums]

Are you referring to the game with "The Clan"? I *think* the marshall treated it as disposable equipment, but then confusingly, when the player ran back and picked it up, he was pulled because it had been hit in the time he took to do that, thus inferring that it was actually non-discardable equipment.

Isn't the rule for non-discardable equipment "3ft", which isn't very far at all? The player had definitely run further than that, so I'm not sure what happened there in the end.

Unlucky for the Clan player, either way...

 

[Troggy]

Well a hopper - as far as i know is not discardable equipment so he should have been pulled anyway - even if it was discardable and he then picks it back up with a hit he is out.
A pot with a hit is still a hit if it is in your possession - I had a pot shot back in to my hand just after I threw it and got pulled (rightly so, but very unlucky!)

Urban..... ok rub it in some more! Still we took it back to the Sinners for ya!

 

[Skiggles]

that was the game against Storm 3 ....

if I remember right the hopper had taken a couple of hits inside and turned everything to puree ... it couldn't have been used after it was picked up anyway unless you wanted to make milkshake.

 

[QuackingPlums]

Originally posted by Troggy
Well a hopper - as far as i know is not discardable equipment so he should have been pulled anyway - even if it was discardable and he then picks it back up with a hit he is out.

Exactly... he should have been pulled the second he ran further than the allowed distance away from the fallen hopper. Unlucky for the player, but the interpretation of the rule looked a bit funny from where I was standing.