Bounce, debounce, gun cheats...easy solution:
- Thread starter TJ Lambini
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No one has posted it, because it is wrong.
ROF is not the only advantage of an electronic trigger, and neither are mechanical anti-chop systems sufficient.
That might work if they were like flash cards in mp3 players that pop in and out easily but making people sit down and take their guns apart... GOOD LUCK! and then you have the issue of people having their own settings on the gun that they like... now they might not be able to do that.
and if the boards are hard to get in and out how do you quickly prove that the board in the gun is the one given out by the promoter.
another thing.. what if someone forgets to give the board back... do they think the teams/players are going to pay them full retail for these boards they didn't even want in the first place?
Look to other sports....
Like Formula1 and WRC - they have rules on horsepower and weight - and a bunch others..
They want to give the manufacturers a set of rules to go by. Within these rules you can do your magic. Such set of rules could be:
ROF
maxFPS
I think that we should look in that direction. Not everybody wants to play with one kind of marker. But they could go for one kind of hopper. In F1 they change the rules almost every year so that the cars wont go that fast...
- turbo is not allowed
- no more slicks
- minimum weight of 600 kilos
- anti-downforce plate to minimized downforce
In paintball that could be as mentioned earlier:
- max ROF with a standardized hopper at ~13 bps
- we already have chrono
- only ballett-shoes for frontplayers
- minimum weight for backplayers ~100kg+
Like Formula1 and WRC - they have rules on horsepower and weight - and a bunch others..
They want to give the manufacturers a set of rules to go by. Within these rules you can do your magic. Such set of rules could be:
ROF
maxFPS
I think that we should look in that direction. Not everybody wants to play with one kind of marker. But they could go for one kind of hopper. In F1 they change the rules almost every year so that the cars wont go that fast...
- turbo is not allowed
- no more slicks
- minimum weight of 600 kilos
- anti-downforce plate to minimized downforce
In paintball that could be as mentioned earlier:
- max ROF with a standardized hopper at ~13 bps
- we already have chrono
- only ballett-shoes for frontplayers
- minimum weight for backplayers ~100kg+
A few, if not most, of the guns involved in the de-bounce debate have software that can be programmed externally via computer or PDA. Would it be so hard to make a program that the tournies could use that would disable bounce programs? It would have to be almost a virus that could get into the programming and eliminate certain parameters. Each player could made to take their gun through a de-bugging station before play. Any gun that the refs deem questionable could be checked to see if the guns has been re-programmed or altered, and the data would be right there to either clear the player or guide ina suitable punishment.
Also, the whole safety issue is bunk. There is a veritable plethora of safetty equipment that would easily protect aginst the most ferocious paintstorm. Most players wont wear it though, because it slows them down, or doesn't look like the pimp $hit, or whatever. Idiocy and vanity are no reason to condemn FA because of "safety concerns".
Peace, I'm out.
Also, the whole safety issue is bunk. There is a veritable plethora of safetty equipment that would easily protect aginst the most ferocious paintstorm. Most players wont wear it though, because it slows them down, or doesn't look like the pimp $hit, or whatever. Idiocy and vanity are no reason to condemn FA because of "safety concerns".
Peace, I'm out.
Why not have a team of 'board experts' go around at events with offical authority to perform spot-checks on players boards off the field. Anyone caught with cheat modes/refusing inspection is banned from the event/team fined whatever....
No matter what kind of standardised board you hand out, people will always find a way to cheat that too. It's human nature and the whole idea would be a logistical nightmare anyway. What next...we're all gonna have to play butt-naked cos a large jersey is baggy on some players yet skin-tight on others?
I don't know much about how easy/hard it is to find these cheat modes but I do know for a fact that a certain team last season used angels crammed with modified timmy boards, the speed screen actually just superglued onto the inside grip to disguise it. Even I could spot that 1 if I opened the grip cover
No matter what kind of standardised board you hand out, people will always find a way to cheat that too. It's human nature and the whole idea would be a logistical nightmare anyway. What next...we're all gonna have to play butt-naked cos a large jersey is baggy on some players yet skin-tight on others?
I don't know much about how easy/hard it is to find these cheat modes but I do know for a fact that a certain team last season used angels crammed with modified timmy boards, the speed screen actually just superglued onto the inside grip to disguise it. Even I could spot that 1 if I opened the grip cover
What amazes me is the number of people who all seem to "know" about teams that have these "cheats" put onto their boards and markers, etc ... but who (on the face of things) have never complained to the promoter or head ref at an event.
Name and shame guys ... by not saying anything you tend to be accepting it as a status quo. If a few people are named, inspected at a tourney, found to be cheating - and are chucked out it will be amazing to see how quickly other fall into line.
Just my 2c worth.
Martin
Name and shame guys ... by not saying anything you tend to be accepting it as a status quo. If a few people are named, inspected at a tourney, found to be cheating - and are chucked out it will be amazing to see how quickly other fall into line.
Just my 2c worth.
Martin
Name and shame? Oh you mean throw unevidenced allegations around?
It makes no difference now players need to (obviously) be caught red-handed with this stuff. Besides I only found out a few days ago, during the season only a handful of people could have known and would have naturally been assassinated by dart throwing giesha's had anything come out.........or maybe just their own agendas, you decide.
Seriously though, policing players boards (somehow) has to be a more realistic option than trying to dictate what manufacturers (the hand that feeds the events and teams) can produce or handing out boards at captains meetings like confetti!