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Graham-DV8

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Humm very interesting reading through all the posts, all I can say is WOW! just what some people have being waiting for, including myself :)

one thing that Paul said caught my eye though...

Originally posted by Collier
I don't forsee a big upset, besides which most tournies in the UK use the PA rules so.....
Does this mean that the likes of the Masters/Bully's (The events that I both play each month) will be also using this 15bps rule? If so great :cool:
 

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I don't think it'd be too hard to proove. It aint hard to shoot between 1-10 bps in a controlled fashion is it?

Plus that aint the point you were making or if if it was it certainly didn't read like that! Read more like you were asking if it was ok to ramp from 1 bps straight to 15!
 

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ye ok don't read that way

didn't explain what i ment very well if it kicks in at 10 bps it is going to be hard to decide if it is ramping or your shoting that fast a very grey zone. Hence y the robots are around.
And if bounce is ok as long as this does not go over 15 bps surely that is the same thing?
 

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ye ok don't read that way

Originally posted by martin
didn't explain what i ment very well if it kicks in at 10 bps it is going to be hard to decide if it is ramping or your shoting that fast a very grey zone. Hence y the robots are around.
And if bounce is ok as long as this does not go over 15 bps surely that is the same thing?
Yep, bounce is fine and ramp is fine as long as you don't go over 15 bps pretty much anything goes :D
 

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sooooooooo

if you set your gun to bounce what is the difference between that and full auto?
not a fat lot even worse added ramping software to a bouncing gun
Don't get me wrong i think it is a good idea just not in that format i can't see how you can inforce one type of ramping and bouncing but not full auto
 

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sooooooooo

Originally posted by martin
if you set your gun to bounce what is the difference between that and full auto?
not a fat lot even worse added ramping software to a bouncing gun
Don't get me wrong i think it is a good idea just not in that format i can't see how you can inforce one type of ramping and bouncing but not full auto
If it's set to bounce so much it's essentially full auto then it won''t be allowed on field.
 

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so

Originally posted by martin
what is the limit?
down to the ref good that ok then no way of measuring or enforcing see my piont?
Good question, possibly the same way TB was being 'allowed' at Malaga?

If you shoot once and get 2-?? balls fair game if you shoot once and get excessive no go?!??

Or something??
 

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ramp kick in

And there still the piont of the ramp kick in.
If i am using a bouncy gun with ramp set at say 10 bps i would only need to pull say 6 bps to get 10 bps from the bounce. So i am still leagal as i have set the ramp to 10 but my gun double taps.
This form of control is not enforceable with out a robot.

The reason the nxl does 3 shots then full auto is simple

Thay have a series of check's first bodes it bounce yes or no?

Does the auto cut in before 3 shots yes or no?

Does it shot over 15 bps yes or no?

If the answer is no to all 3 the marker passes if it is a yes to any of the above it fails.

I hope i have managed to get my piont over.