A must read - PA rule change for the 2005 season

[Russell Smith]

Originally posted by Parksy
In conjunction with this Russ are you going to be introducing a rule on paint quality to coincide.

It will not be in the rules because that is down to the event organisers themselves.
But the PA national league will have a tournament grade paint only policy.
For this season we will allow the paint suppliers to tell us what they have as tournament grade.
I do not forsee a problem with that.
All paint suppliers have an interest on how their brands perform and they can now say what you have to use at the PA.
I do understand that some players will see it as us making them spend more money, but if the paint breaks on the other team instead of breaking in the barrel or bouncing it will save them cash.


Russ

 

[Parksy]

Interesting to hear you say that Brian

As someone who knows the ins and out of markers I would have though a decision like this would have coincided with it being an easy task to limit bps? From what your saying it don't seem like you follow that trail of thought, unless like you say people turn the eye off and limit the max rof through the eye off setting.

 

[Russell Smith]

Originally posted by DangerousBrian
ok, maybe something needs to b done about cheats, but THIS?

and let me get this straight, you're now going to penalise guys who can shoot fast WITHOUT modes WTF!!

Alot of guns without these CHEATS dont have a ROF cap either, unless you want to turn the eye off ect which sucks, what are we supposed to do about that?

Brian, if not this what we are still open to workable ideas.

Yes I am afriad some people will be forced to fire less but do you know many people who can sustain 15+ bps.

I have talked to some of the manufactuers who have said the mode can be done without a lot of work, nobody said anything about the eye having to be off.
Are you saying the nxl guns dont have eyes!

Brian the reason we decided to release this proposed rule change is for this very reason, so people can talk about it and maybe suggest something else that will work if they do not agree with what we propose.


Russ

 

[Flash-Bugout]

Originally posted by Russell Smith
do you know many people who can sustain 15+ bps.

I know of one person who can definately shoost that fast, his name be Dangerous Brian...

Personally, I'd like it to be unlimited in pure semi, but then the rampers would deny that they had ramping modes, and just go that way (the way they do today).

I say make it 18, but that's just my 2p worth, without really thinking about it too hard, and without knowing exactly how fast I can shoost long strings of paint, but I'd still prefer it to be something which I think is unobtainable, rather than something which I think I might possibly fall foul of.

 

[LATHAM]

This sounds like a fun idea to me!

15bps is plenty fast enough. You ever seen a gun on full auto at 15! I wouldn't want to get 18 balls in my head in a second anyway!!!!

Gonna be funny seeing even the slowest shooters now being able to ripp their gats. And i don't think this should bother the people who practiced to shoot really fast. Playing ability is much more important than learning to ripp your axe. Put some time into that instead!

Wonder what guns people will use if they'll all shoot the same speed. looks like accuracy, size, weight, best ramp mode and how well it shoots brittle paint will be the new things not ROF! Flash is gonna be busy programing me an Ego very soon!!!!

Laterz

 

[Collier]

Brian, it's going to be easy enough to program in a max bps rate, IMO this levels the playing field in terms of firepower now UK ballers just need to learn the rest, at least it might put an ease to the taking up the chrony space showing 'how fast' peeps can fire.
I can't wait!
Flash get busy with that ego program.
Personally I'd really like to see the rule being true semi between 1-10 bps anything after the board can ramp to 15. But I inderstand that may be arse to actually regulate?!?

 

[sie2050]

well imho i think this rule could upset alot of people that are goin to play the pa for example ive played with the wrexham pimps and they are just stupidly fast and i think they do sustain 15 or more bps and that was with the cocker. and i know i can go faster than 15 cos ive done a test which tom allen suggested.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by sie2050
well imho i think this rule could upset alot of people that are goin to play the pa for example ive played with the wrexham pimps and they are just stupidly fast and i think they do sustain 15 or more bps and that was with the cocker. and i know i can go faster than 15 cos ive done a test which tom allen suggested.

That maybe so but can you consistantly hit 15? no!
With this rule in place it'll be easier to maintain that bps with bounce etc...
I don't forsee a big upset, besides which most tournies in the UK use the PA rules so.....

 

[martin]

ramp

so if i pull 1 bps i can have my marker going at 15bps?
or will there be a lower ramp limit?
cos the nxl 3 pulls is there for that very reason.
a mugging at 15 bps is going to hurt.
You will have no control mugg someone pull the trigger twice and BAME 15 bps ouch.

 

[Collier]

ramp

Originally posted by martin
so if i pull 1 bps i can have my marker going at 15bps?
or will there be a lower ramp limit?
cos the nxl 3 pulls is there for that very reason.
a mugging at 15 bps is going to hurt.
You will have no control mugg someone pull the trigger twice and BAME 15 bps ouch.

The figure being talked about (earlier in this thread ) is 10 bps to then ramp to 15, 2 - 15 would not be acceptible.