A must read - PA rule change for the 2005 season

[Collier]

K I'm bored of battling this. The decision to go down this route wasn't taken lightly and plenty of thought has gone into this, excessive bounce will still be policed, rules/guidlines will be announced in due course if the change is sanctioned.
Caps can easily be put on any markers software and manufacturers will sort it especially with the demand there will be as from the looks of it a fair few leagues are looking at this kind of thing, certainly bps caps anyway!

 

[John C]

Ramping boards and a ROF cap will mean the players dont have to set their triggers insanely short and light to 'keep up with the other guy' on the field.

You only need to set your trigger so you can activate ramp easily.

The marshall will still test the trigger, but just to make sure you arent taking the piss, not checking it by ripping a hopper of your paint to see if an extra ball or two comes out.

So we have a 15bps cap and heavier triggers. How can you say its less safe???

 

[Pump'n'Splat]

Whereas simply keeping cheat boards illegal and keeping the bounce rules the same mean that the sport is actually kept safer.

I seem to have missed where the author of the thread said there will be a further rule created as to the heaviness of trigger, The impression I got was that bounce would be legal providing the gun was capped at 15bps and that it didn't bounce at the micro-lightest touch.

Stored shots mean you don't have control of what your gun is firing, period.

Surely more effort should go into how to make cheat boards illegal, than trying to cover all the variables that come with cheating, bounce, etc.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Pump'n'Splat
Whereas simply keeping cheat boards illegal and keeping the bounce rules the same mean that the sport is actually kept safer.

I seem to have missed where the author of the thread said there will be a further rule created as to the heaviness of trigger, The impression I got was that bounce would be legal providing the gun was capped at 15bps and that it didn't bounce at the micro-lightest touch.

Stored shots mean you don't have control of what your gun is firing, period.

Surely more effort should go into how to make cheat boards illegal, than trying to cover all the variables that come with cheating, bounce, etc.

Their already illegal, but that doesn't stop people using them as you well know..
What's your main objection to this?

 

[le-pig]

Originally posted by Pump'n'Splat
Surely more effort should go into how to make cheat boards illegal, than trying to cover all the variables that come with cheating, bounce, etc.

you really dont get it do you nick,you CAN'T check them unless you know the code to turn it on

 

[Pump'n'Splat]

Cheers for sounding so condescending Pig. Of course I get it, I know all the arguments, i've read the articles in PGI, i've read pro players views about cheat boards, i've read this thread from start to finish. I know you can't identify a cheat board at the moment as is. My view is that rather than giving in to their use, attempt to put legislation in place where a cheat board CAN be identified.

Agricultural diesel is coloured Red by the DOT to stop it's illegal use. Surely legislation can be levied on the producers of cheat boards to make them identify the board as flouting the law?

My Argument is twofold:

a) Safety, I don't accept the arguments that extra balls that you haven't physically delivered makes game safer. And you gotta remember if this legislation comes in, it wont be experienced ballers using these boards, it'll be everyone, right down to the teams who've only just picked up guns. Also the grey areas created by the rule cause as many headaches as they solve.

b) Skilled ballers who don't need this software could be unfairly penalised.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Pump'n'Splat


b) Skilled ballers who don't need this software could be unfairly penalised.

Why an objection to a rof cap?

 

[le-pig]

stop calling me pig,its mr pig,piggy or dave to you eel boy

i can see your point nick,but how do you check every single markers board before a game
the cost would be astrinomical and would be directed back at us

 

[Pump'n'Splat]

It's not an objection to a ROF cap, it's more an objection to a ROF cap and in the same breath stopping an objection to a piece of software/hardware which is specifically illegal and designed to cheat.

I find it hypocritical to say...oh, ok, you can cheat if you're going to anyway...but woe betide anyone that's actually good enough to be able to play better than you can cheat.

Ok, .Piggy-wiggy-porky-pie, Yes, you are right, it would cost a lot and it's unfeasible. But that's the sort of thing that should be being considered. Rather than stirring up a hornet's nest...'cos i'm sure that just me and the naysayers on this thread aren't the only people that are going to get a bit prickly about this ruling.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Pump'n'Splat
It's not an objection to a ROF cap, it's more an objection to a ROF cap and in the same breath stopping an objection to a piece of software/hardware which is specifically illegal and designed to cheat.

I find it hypocritical to say...oh, ok, you can cheat if you're going to anyway...but woe betide anyone that's actually good enough to be able to play better than you can cheat.

Eh? 'Cheat boards can and do ramp uo to waaaay beyond 15 bps...