A must read - PA rule change for the 2005 season
- Thread starter Russell Smith
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There was no 'pure' in the definition.
It was about if it needed gravity to keep feeding/working.
Is you are talking about 'PURE' gravity feed then you can't even allow revvies, because the act of agitating the balls helps them to feed. The feeding is not dependent on gravity alone.
Any rule you make HAS to have a clear definition.
People will work within/around that rule.
Keeping a rule simple makes it easier to enforce, but also makes it possible in some circumstances to work around it.
Depending on how this rule is implemented I can already see issues/concerns.
The NXL already broke the 'intent' of their rule, but not the actual rule.
Get a rule, that is clear, simple, and easy to enforce and it's the best hope you have.
I think this rule is a start towards that.
I would rather it's not needed... but pandora's box has been opened.
my questions relates to the tool used to check the 15bps rule, i would presume that this tool is some sort of optical recognition device, does this tool need to be held behind the player like the chronos in the NXL? if this is the case your gonna have a large amount of players bouncing/ ramping as fast as thier hoppers can feed, and then single ballin with a ref standing behind them.
if this tool can detect bps by pointing at the player from any angle which i find hard to belive then fair play, but a player with a ref standing behind him is never gonna walk a naughty gun.
guess it all depnds on this tool really, if the tool does have to be held behind a player then in my view its pretty much unenforcable.
if this tool can detect bps by pointing at the player from any angle which i find hard to belive then fair play, but a player with a ref standing behind him is never gonna walk a naughty gun.
guess it all depnds on this tool really, if the tool does have to be held behind a player then in my view its pretty much unenforcable.
My guess is this tool measures the sound produced by the paintball marker.
Not that hard to believe really.
Thinking about this, it occurs that the only time during a game that this 15bps ramping thing will really HONESTLY be used is at the break (apart from a few monster back players, but even then they want their paint to last a full game, right?).
How does the detecting device cope with multiple gats ripping away close together (ie a typical breakout)? Any false positives? (noting that even 1 is too many).
Also, will there be any tolerance to the rule, as timing oscillators in different chips are always slightly different - what if my gat is set to 15 and is doing 15.1, and the detector is readign 15 at 14.8, that's gonna put me .3 of a bps over the limit...
How does the detecting device cope with multiple gats ripping away close together (ie a typical breakout)? Any false positives? (noting that even 1 is too many).
Also, will there be any tolerance to the rule, as timing oscillators in different chips are always slightly different - what if my gat is set to 15 and is doing 15.1, and the detector is readign 15 at 14.8, that's gonna put me .3 of a bps over the limit...
Granted for most of the time but a halo with rip drive has a spring that force feeds the balls in the feed neck that will work upside down. All you need to do to prove this is run your halo turn it off then pull it off the gun a string of balls shoot out (which can be very annoying if you forget)
Incidently, that has nothing to do with the rip-drive. Any and all halos have the feed cone that results in force feed.
A good Unidirectional microphone attached to the processing device, and somebody that is good at pointing(most of the PA marshalls can point
) is all that is needed...Edit: Flash is right though that people standing very close together would be prone to cause false positives...
But that would only apply to people standing in the same barricade, and only when the marshall testing the guns is relatively far away.
Lots of testing is required here...
just a thought here
can i assume that a marshall will have to stand behind a player to use this radar counting device to count the BPS
if so, while you are trying to stay tight to a bunker, how will the marshalls feel about having 15bps coming straight at them while the player is ducking in and out and the oppostion are posting him
I feel this may produce the same thing that we got in Formula 1 a few years back with all the driver aids......it is no longer about the driver.....just the car...it was a great idea, but was scrapped after a few months
Do we need to enforce chin straps on goggles and head protection before someone gets hurt ? (and before you ask i have seen someone 'see stars' at the welsh open last year after a mugging run)
Out of interest ....how the hell do i cap the ROF on a cocker (E1)
On the flip side of this conversation how many people can hit 10bps to actually activate the ramping boards (if they are running legal ones)
Could we get the manufactures to make boards that, lets say, over 5bps allow the marker to fire at a rate of 1.5 shots per trigger pull (ie 10bps=15bps, but 6bps=9bps) this will give everyone an advantage not just those that can hit the magic 10?
can i assume that a marshall will have to stand behind a player to use this radar counting device to count the BPS
if so, while you are trying to stay tight to a bunker, how will the marshalls feel about having 15bps coming straight at them while the player is ducking in and out and the oppostion are posting him
I feel this may produce the same thing that we got in Formula 1 a few years back with all the driver aids......it is no longer about the driver.....just the car...it was a great idea, but was scrapped after a few months
Do we need to enforce chin straps on goggles and head protection before someone gets hurt ? (and before you ask i have seen someone 'see stars' at the welsh open last year after a mugging run)
Out of interest ....how the hell do i cap the ROF on a cocker (E1)
On the flip side of this conversation how many people can hit 10bps to actually activate the ramping boards (if they are running legal ones)
Could we get the manufactures to make boards that, lets say, over 5bps allow the marker to fire at a rate of 1.5 shots per trigger pull (ie 10bps=15bps, but 6bps=9bps) this will give everyone an advantage not just those that can hit the magic 10?