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Collier

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Originally posted by Super Tit
Is there that many people with ramping boards at the P.A, im not talking about guns that bounce im talking modes set into markers to make them ramp.
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Yes, there are currently 37 people using ramping boards.....

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Originally posted by Collier
C'mon Beaks that's like asking how many illegal guns in the NPPL? who knows?? ya can't catch em!
Agreed, but I don't stand and watch NPPL games and go "f*ck me that gun must be 'helping' the player" half as much as I do in the UK.

You know when you watch games and you can tell the out and out dodgy guns vs those that just slip every now and again and aren't trying to cheat. (take our Philly game vs our games against Jags)

I'm just asking for gut feeling.
 

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Russ so you are saying the the E2 with TT filters enabled to stop bounce is not going to let me fire over 15bps??? Im sure planet would have somthing differnt to say on that matter!



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Collier

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Originally posted by chrismrgn
Right, if you dont believe me, go to http://www.planeteclipse.com/ego/ and test ur skills on the ego rate of fire thingy. I can get 19 ez on that, so test urself.
Thats a simulation, it aint with paint, there IS a differance.
Check this link out and listen to the various bps still sure you can hit 19 easily??
http://teamdob.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50/url

Beaks,

I know what you mean, personally I've seen less than a handfull but I don't watch that many games not like Russ.
 

Collier

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Originally posted by chrismrgn
Well il be in the limits of the 15bps rule atleeast.
But frankly would it not be better to allow electronic aids up to 15bps, and not put a limit on semi normal finger fire??
Surely that puts us in the same boat we're in now?
 

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I think this is a positive safety step, and one that does resolve many of the problems faced when trying to catch gun cheats. The present Trigger Bounce, FA checks only ever catch the ignorant or stupid who can't set-up a gun properly, not those with designer or custom cheat boards. If this rule can be enforced (with the correct equipment), and is non-subjective it's a good thing. No ones ever going to admit to being a cheat, but I bet a whole load of players know they are getting a little extra help from their guns, even if it's just subtle. Subjective testing and / or complete avoidance of the Chrono marshal (ghosting), will effectively be a thing of the past if they allowed BPS ramping to a set level. Accepted this may make running & gunning easier, but the "shooting fast is a skill" line is a bit of a crock. Players who concentrate on ripping fast strings "legally" are so intent on doing so they get tunnel visioned and then done like a punter. Whether these players change and become more aware and this changes the nature of the game is too early to tell, but I think it will force players to be more creative and thinking when playing.