X-ball

[Tony]

Regarding TV

Originally posted by Baca Loco

No doubt true but the issue would be compensation to the original franchise holder and the potential to split the fan base and thus devalue the original franchise.

True, but..... if Xball is to succeed, it has to be taken up by the general populace, or the tv networks won't touch it. The best way for it to be taken up, is surely to have inter city rivalries?? or at least inter state rivalries.

XBall will succeed by being big. 6 or 7 teams scattered round the US won't do it, it would have to be done like American Football, where many teams compete, then the winners of a season long division go on to meet in the final. I can quite easily see the first season being pretty much ignored, it's the final that they should be pushing to be televised, then maybe the season after will garner some interest.

 

[TJ Lambini]

No Euros will be involved in US initially - it will be 8 US teams.

Nations Cup may happen again though like this year.

As and when it comes to Europe, teams will not have to have sole sponsors I suspect, and Richmond will not be making tha decision.

 

[rancid]

head above the parapet

So, let me get this right: 8 franchises, 8 home venues, attracting 8 spectators, £200,000 entry (plus running costs), a paintball map based on Football, no start-up income stream, only the fear of what you may miss out on is compulsion to invest, (cos no matter the format we all know paintball doesn't televise).

And America has locked the door, cos I ain't travelling halfway around the world to get my arse spanked by an Am team in the 'world cup' anymore.

European X-ball? Please show me where the revenue stream comes from. And then show me who's got the money to invest. And then show me how we can televise an event across 8 disparate euro countires and then show me an audience. And then show me where that pig nests.

Stick to your guns Europe, and we'll see the US on the other side of Mount Doom.

 

[TJ Lambini]

>>>>only the fear of what you may miss out on is compulsion to invest

Exactimundo

>>>(cos no matter the format we all know paintball doesn't televise).

Maybe, maybe not...we'll find out soon enough. They said tha same thing about golf...

Euro won't happen next season, I'll put big money on it, but maybe later down tha road deopending on what happens over here.

However, good news is that European teams may actually win Millennium events now...who knows, tha Brts may even take one?

Ah, now I see tha pig's nest too...

 

[manike]

TJ you seem to imply that any teams participating in X-ball will no longer participate at all in other events?

I seriously doubt if X-ball will stop those (or other US) teams still coming to Europe... and winning Millenniums

I agree with Rancid without a revenue stream in Europe via the televising of X-ball how can it be done or run? It's too financially restrictive at the moment. I don't see it happening in the same way that it has in the USA.

How about a series of tournaments of 3 man X-ball with teams of 7 players... with a shorter total game time so that round robin events can happen...

hmm I might have to persuade someone to put on such an event.

manike

 

[TJ Lambini]

Smart money says top teams will be locked into X-Ball and not playing anything else, Millenniums included.

 

[manike]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Smart money says top teams will be locked into X-Ball and not playing anything else, Millenniums included.

Why is that the smart money?

These teams are there to promote product. If the X-ball events are closed house how are they going to do that to the rest of the paintball comunity apart from through the 'small' number of televised show's and a relatively small number of paintballing spectators?

I'd say grab the televising and continue with the other events which help sell product to the masses. The teams will be professional players, so what else are they going to be doing?

What benefits to the teams/sponsors are there to not participate in other events? Or is it something that will be inforced by the X-ball squad? If so and X-ball doesn't pay back quickly, I'd expect a lot of people to not stick with it...

manike

 

[TJ Lambini]

Why is tha smart money tha smart money? I don't know - all I know is that's what they're saying.

Could all change, but way things stand as of now, that's what's gonna happen...but you know as well as I do things change quickly.

There is more going on than meets tha eye...

 

[TJ Lambini]

As for tha rest...

These teams are there to promote product. If the X-ball events are closed house how are they going to do that to the rest of the paintball comunity apart from through the 'small' number of televised show's and a relatively small number of paintballing spectators?

>>>Think tha magazines won't major on X-Ball?

I'd say grab the televising and continue with the other events which help sell product to the masses. The teams will be professional players, so what else are they going to be doing?

>>>Who sez tha players are gonna be paid to play?

What benefits to the teams/sponsors are there to not participate in other events? Or is it something that will be inforced

>>>May be inforced, may not - but think finances as much as anything else.

 

[Baca Loco]

X-Ballers will only play X-Ball

but, if next season's events are held side-by-side with NPPl schedule it might very well make sense to target at least one Mil event to do the same thing--a sort of preview for Euro X.
Part of the issue, Manike, is likely the desire for a clear distinction between the pro ranks (X-Ball) and the rest of paintball. It won't be mere semantics anymore and the exclusivity of the players and the competition will be important for a fledgling Pro effort.

Rancid, cheer up, Europe is safe for awhile even if this works as I'm not sure same conditions exist over there. And, reserve final judgement for, say, three to six, months on issues of revenue and accessibility.

Headrock--as a Jets fan you've suffered enuf but be careful what you say about the Wolverines (particularly given this year's secondary and the ongoing offensive playbook that has all the excitement of a snail race.) It makes me very grumpy.