Whitch teams to play the exl???

[Matte]

I agree with Egi and Gaff. We have to know really soon if, how and when we get the chance to qualify for EXL. The smartest thing for us would be psp to get the x-ball experience, but will that count for qualifying to exl?

i know for sure that i dont wanna play this 3:rd format when its not the top league. if we play the new format and get the chance to qualify against some exl team who played x-ball all season, they will have the advantage for sure. but if we play psp all season and then get to qualify....

Why not make this new format into Div1 X-ball instead, and let us play the same tournaments, i dont like the idea of not letting us play all the tourney, when exl teams can. I think the reason is that Div1 took a lot of publicity in Us and that would be a dissaster in exl . But still.... i dont like the idea of shutting teams out completely from the touneys.

Matte

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[sjt19]

Originally posted by Matte

I think the reason is that Div1 took a lot of publicity in Us and that would be a dissaster in exl .

The reason that the Div 1 Xball in the PSP got a lot of attention was because there were teams playing it that were of the same standard as those playing in the NXL, i.e Dynasty, Naughty Dogs, Strange, Russian Legion and Legacy. If there was to be a Div 1 Xball under the EXL the attention would not be taken away because those teams would not be as big as the EXL teams. Also, i dont think that publicity comes into it at all, because people at the events are largely going to be ballers anyway, rather than the general public. Therefore these ballers are gonna wana see Ton Ton vs Legion more than they are gonna wana see any Div 1 games. The NXL suffers from not having the top teams all in the same league, with the notable exceptions of Dynasty, Dogs, Avalanche, Strange, BC, B'wackers with whom you could form another 6 team league to rivel what the NXL are doing. The EXL has avoided this by having the top 8 Euro teams, with no exceptions. I dont thik that we will see teams declingin franchises like teams in the USA did last season for whatever reason. The EXL has the top 8 teams, and will be the focus of the MS events, rather than a sideshow

 

[gaff]

Originally posted by Matte
I agree with Egi and Gaff. We have to know really soon if, how and when we get the chance to qualify for EXL. The smartest thing for us would be psp to get the x-ball experience, but will that count for qualifying to exl?

i know for sure that i dont wanna play this 3:rd format when its not the top league. if we play the new format and get the chance to qualify against some exl team who played x-ball all season, they will have the advantage for sure. but if we play psp all season and then get to qualify....

Matte

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great idea, we would stay in Europe if this happened, we could then get the experience of XBall and hopefully qualify for EXL 2005!

i bet it dont happen tho!

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by gaff
great idea, we would stay in Europe if this happened, we could then get the experience of XBall and hopefully qualify for EXL 2005!

i bet it dont happen tho!

I don't think there is going to be a fair way of assessing teams who play Divisional XBall in the US for qualification to the EXL relative to teams who can't afford to play Stateside but still want in.

I think the only fair way of doing it is for teams to declare their interest in 2005 EXL and for there to be an end of season XBall tourney where teams face off for qualification to the EXL.

If certain teams had decided to play divisional XBall in the run up to the end of season XBall qualifying tourney, then good luck to them as this will give them an edge but no way should they directly qualfy just because they attended one, two or maybe three tourneys over there.
But, I think it is fair that teams who do make that sort of US commitmment be better placed to qualify by virtue of their greater XBall experience.

Teams who fancy their chances over here in Europe who cannot afford regular trips Stateside to play Divisional XBall can still train XBall throughout the season and therefore still have a realistic chance of getting in.

Would lead to an interesting end of season, much like our soccer play offs.

 

[gaff]

i dont agree with the end of season tourney unless all teams current EXL and new play the same tourney for the same places, also i dont think that playing a 3rd meaningless format all season then being expected to play a one off tourney for qualification is fair either, cos teams that will be able to go stateside and play XBall will have a massive advantage!

we are at this moment in time gonna play stateside and it looks pretty much like XBall, but we would reconsider and play XBall in the MS if there was a league for it that allowed access and qualification to EXL 2005.

until that statement from a MS committee member arrives stating what hoops we have to jump through to achieve qualification to the 2005 EXL then ours and i am sure a few others plans will remain away from MS.

 

[EGi]

For once I agree totally with Robbo. Having a qualifying tournament in the end of the year is a great idea. It is far better than picking the best 7-man teams or the best PL format teams since the game isn't played with the same format. Lets say a 3 day tournament and enough games so it's not one game and you are out. Should be fare for everybody.

One thing I don't understand though. If a team doesnt have the money to go play in the US 2-3 how can they afford to play in the EXL? The expensises are pretty much equal.

 

[Godlike player]

Agree with gaff.
Makes much more sense to drop the Super league, and let the other Pro's play Div 1 X-Ball. Then the teams who are interested in EXL get the experience they need, while still supporting the MS.
If Div 1 X-Ball is played in the MS, then it will make the promotion to EXL in 2005 straightforward.
I don't think an end of year X-ball tournament, or World rankings will work. Especially while the MS still won't give a definate answer on how teams will be ranked for promotion.
The MS are already taking a lot of stick, re the selection of the 8 EXL teams. If they don't give info soon, on how they will promote in 2005, they are leaving themselves open for a mass exodus, or all out war.
I can't see why they want to complicate things when Div1 X-Ball would make it so easy for them, and so much more attractive to the "other" Pro teams.

 

[EGi]

I agree also that it would be nicer to get to play X-ball in Europe this year. I just think that the Millennium board wont change their mind at this stage anymore.

They already left themselves in trouble by giving out big cash to the best marshalling teams. I can see no fair way of telling who is the best marshalling team out of the 35-40 teams doing the job this year and I don't think anybody can do a fair job at all. I suppose letting the teams vote is the best way but still you wont get the correct result since there is no way to say who is the best, second etc _marshalling_

I would use the 10Keur somewhere else, this aint going to make marshalling that much better...

What does this sentece btw mean on the press release "The Premier league prize money will consist of 200€ for every team entered in the tournament"? I suppose it means ALL the team, including div1, div2 and div3?

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by gaff
i dont agree with the end of season tourney unless all teams current EXL and new play the same tourney for the same places, also i dont think that playing a 3rd meaningless format all season then being expected to play a one off tourney for qualification is fair either, cos teams that will be able to go stateside and play XBall will have a massive advantage!

we are at this moment in time gonna play stateside and it looks pretty much like XBall, but we would reconsider and play XBall in the MS if there was a league for it that allowed access and qualification to EXL 2005.

until that statement from a MS committee member arrives stating what hoops we have to jump through to achieve qualification to the 2005 EXL then ours and i am sure a few others plans will remain away from MS.

U keep crowing on about this threatened great exodus from the MS to the PSP, wielding it like some great sword behind whatever points you try and make.
Well if you so are soo damn sure all these teams are gonna shift their asses Stateside, name them.

 

[EGi]

I agree with Robbo that most likely there is only going to be a handfull of teams that can actually get 12-15 players 3-4 times to the states in a year to play X-ball. LA is only two months away, how many teams can actually say that they are going (we are unless there are major news in the next few weeks)

I just feel sad because to me it looks like most of the millennium and partner events will be smaller than they used to be and they will also have a very though time to keep up the great level of quality we have seen in the last years. Most likely Toulouse and Campaign will still attract big crowds but last year there was less than 50 teams in Joy with 6 millenniums so there is a big chance that few of the tournaments this year will have a hard time attracting teams.

I don't want to bash the series or anything. I know making the right calls is not easy and everybody here just tells what they want for their own good...