Welcome To P8ntballer.com
The Home Of European Paintball
Sign Up & Join In

Ton Tons @ CC

Robbo

Owner of this website
Jul 5, 2001
13,116
2,157
448
London
www.p8ntballer.com
Originally posted by coombzy
so we've got Laurent apparently admitting the Ton Tons used velocity ramping, and a few pages back the maker of the board the Ton Tons use insisting it's impossible

someones gotta be lying somewhere

I am not saying Laurent is suggesting anything other than what he said, but what's important here is, what will happen in the future not what has gone on in the past.
 

Spike

Platinum Member
Nov 11, 2001
663
31
53
Essex, England
www.GIMILSIM.com
Both Frank & Laurent have given me their word that things will be different next year.

They took on board what I said regarding Ton Ton being the most boo'd team on the circuit.

Laurent did go further into his plans but I can not divulge what was said other than to say we will see a difference if he does what he said he will. I am sure he will announce his plans shortly.

I like Pete believe him. Lets wait and see what happens.
 

Robbo

Owner of this website
Jul 5, 2001
13,116
2,157
448
London
www.p8ntballer.com
Ya know, the more I think about this Ton Ton thingy the more it makes a mockery of everything, not least of which is the stance I am trying to take with Nexus's non use of illegally ramping markers (either velocity or frequency ramped ).

The only way out for people like Frank above (as I see it) is for him to leave the game if that degree of cynicism is so ingrained in his head and he just cannot see the real truth of the matter.
But for him to leave the game, he would then have to realize that there are teams out there who do not use velocity ramped markers and if he genuinely thinks (which he does) Nexus is using them after all that I have said, then there is little hope for him.

In fact the game which he uses as an example of Nexus using velocity ramped markers (Paris XBall) we were using Cocker based E-Blades and velocity ramping isn’t possible on these guns but his hold on the belief that we use them, is unshakable.
Frank does need to leave the game I think, along with any other player on that team who holds similar beliefs because if commonsense and reality can bring no pressure to bear on such a mistaken idea than the rest of us pros cannot be confident in any way they are playing the game fairly.
Laurent’s assurances come as a welcome relief to this situation and also perhaps for those on that team who are not as convinced as Frank.

It also makes me rethink what I am doing with my team Nexus because at the very least, certainly in the NPPL, I am sending my guys out there on the field at a huge disadvantage and I see this most break-outs when my guys end up with one, sometimes two heading toward the dead box after a few strides and our opponents generally surviving whatever we throw at them.
Mind you, it could be that Nexus suck at long range shooting; you makes your own decisions on that one.

There is now absolutely no practical justification for me holding onto any moral high ground in the way I run Nexus and I should now let them use cheat markers, after all, the vast majority of the Pro NPPL teams are using them, the league knows, the industry helps, the players accept, and so how the hell do I keep telling my players ‘No’ in the face of that degree of compliance.
I ain’t for one second saying I am any better than anybody else here, in fact, most people probably think I am a dick in doing this and for the most part they are probably right because I am hamstringing my guys every time we play in the NPPL but for the life of me, I can’t seem to capitulate even though there is not one person out there who could criticize me for me doing so.
We need a sea change in thinking from the players, the industry and the leagues and we also need world peace ...:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Robbo


In fact the game which he uses as an example of Nexus using velocity ramped markers (Paris XBall) we were using Cocker based E-Blades and velocity ramping isn’t possible on these guns
Really? Why not?

And as for 'not one person who could criticize you', well, I gott beg to differ on that one big guy. Your logic is getting kranky in your old age...:p
 

Robbo

Owner of this website
Jul 5, 2001
13,116
2,157
448
London
www.p8ntballer.com
Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Really? Why not?
No idea why not, it is allegdegly something to do with the marker not being able to be influenced by the electronics in a particualr way, I have been told by Ledz and others that velocity ramping on EBladed Cockers isn't possible.

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
And as for 'not one person who could criticize you', well, I gott beg to differ on that one big guy. Your logic is getting kranky in your old age...:p?
I do concede Duffitusta (my boss at PGi) would have a problem yes, and he has gone on record in stating that if my guys ever did use them, PGi would take away our sponsorship but the likes of him are akin to the piles of rocking horse **** that cover the world of Paintball.

I wish there were more of him within the industry and not just those who pay lip service to any moral stances.
 

Robbo

Owner of this website
Jul 5, 2001
13,116
2,157
448
London
www.p8ntballer.com
Originally posted by ptit_mat
the only english comic I know is Rowan Atkinston, who's Robbo ?someone from the monty pytons ?

anyway, thanks about the show!

And so your point is what exactly?

I wouldn't come on here suggesting any of what I have said is untrue, are you?