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Originally posted by fred1
I have to say the Tontons have a serious attitude problem that has cost them dearly this year. They have players with a hot temper that can't control their emotions and tend to flip out ninja style. And they might think they are the leagues scape goats and that people are doing eveything they can to bring them down and giving them unfair calls. But right now they make a fuss about everything. Everybody gets sh*t calls. They just interpret it as a personal attack and flip out. I haven't seen one event this year where there wasn't a Tonton controversy.
the reason for this as i am sure budgie will agree with me on is simple THEY ARE FRENCH simple case of genetics!!;)

oh and the game they won against XSV was bloody good but a couple of the guns did seem to be a bit faster than others but as i said good game to watch.
 

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i know one on the tigers had their v-force goggles pretty much blown off their face when they were mugged from close distance.

ton ton guy shot him from above in the chronic zipper and actually shot through the top of his goggles and gave him a nasty lump on his eye brow....... inch lower and he wouldnt be aiming with that eye ever again......

i know muggins a massive part of the game but it does make you think about your safety coz a marker at 280fps wouldnt do that
 

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I have played in a local tournament with a TonTon player (not going to give a name) and let me say, I was disgraced by his attitude, even in just a small friendly tournament. He had on him a swab with small piece of an allen key on the end, hidden by the fluff. Walking onto the field after chronoing he pulled it out and turned up his maxflow reg to increase the FPS....

Now if TonTon players feel they have to do that in local tournies to win, then I'm worried what the hell they do in Millennium events.

I wasn't at Campaign, but what you guys have said about their games doesn't really suprise me...
 

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Originally posted by webby
I have played in a local tournament with a TonTon player (not going to give a name) and let me say, I was disgraced by his attitude, even in just a small friendly tournament. He had on him a swab with small piece of an allen key on the end, hidden by the fluff. Walking onto the field after chronoing he pulled it out and turned up his maxflow reg to increase the FPS....

Now if TonTon players feel they have to do that in local tournies to win, then I'm worried what the hell they do in Millennium events.

I wasn't at Campaign, but what you guys have said about their games doesn't really suprise me...
Nuts to not namign him, spill the beans. Rate of fire cheating - not good, but velocity cheating = ar$ehole who should be dropped on him head from a high place. He's seriously putting people's safety and lives at risk.

Name & Shame.
 

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It's unfortunate that they have chips on their shoulders because most of them are really pleasant off-field and not all of them are flying a-holes on-field. They seem to think the world's against them which isn't helped by all the French bashing seen here and elsewhere. Last year they thought Steve Morris was biased against them as well as all of the team-based refs. This year Mill have about 80% paid, independent refs and the remaining team-refs are split up among all the fields. Hell, even the head ref of the pro finals field is French and comes from Toulouse.

Simply put, they are their own worse enemies because of their persecution complex and their hot heads. They might even take first place sometime if they could channel their energies towards their game rather than against the refs and everyone else.

If it is true that they are cheating with velocity then that is a very serious matter. And, if it is true, they're not the only ones. Which leads to another point...

If the guns weren't checked for ROF after all the hooplah about rules, etc then it borderlines on being criminal. Then there is a crying need for more than two hand chronies per field. In fact, Mill need to invest in radar speed-gun type chronies so players can be checked from behind.

An eye or a life is a terrible thing to waste.
 

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All I will say on the matter of our game between the Ton Tons is this; I would like a replay whereby both teams are using legal markers this time , and also, one of my players (Jamie) could get to the end of the game without being shot multiple times in the head and back (even though he was signaling he was out by placing his hand on his head) and he will bear the marks of that low life, scum bag, cowardly assault for a long time yet.

This team had to my knowledge at this one tournament, 3 players suspended, two for violent acts of over-shooting and one for an illegal marker mode, he was running PSP mode.

I also got told over the weekend, from a respectable and extremely good source (and all you guys know I do not bull****) that a request was made by the Ton Tons to have ramping velocity boards fitted to their markers, the request was subsequently denied by this particular person……..whether they were successful in their quest may be indicated by some of the welts my guys took when playing them.

All this I think is a general indicator as to how this team view the rules of the game because if they stoop this low with regards to their markers and general rules of on-field behaviour, then playing on and wiping would become second nature, only an inference I know, and not hard evidence but if I had to bet, I’d bet my frikkin house on it.

I’m not saying we would beat them if my two requirements for a replay were upheld, but I would like to think we would have likely been in the finals but hey, who knows.

This is not a ‘French’ thing, this is a ‘bunch of cheating *******s’ thing, any nationality who does **** like this should be aimed outa paintball faster than a five pound note being stuffed into Niall Squires’s pocket.

On another note, a few bridges were rebuilt over this weekend, not only for me personally but also for the team.
The long standing feud and bad feeling between the Tigers and Nexus has truly been dead and buried.
The guys on both teams spent a fair bit of time together and I think all either of us ever wanted from the other was respect.
We both decided that from now on, we would, when at tourneys, stage together like the Americans sometimes do when they are abroad.
Far too much BS and acrimony had been allowed to fester on both sides of this problem and I honestly think we are entering a new era for Brit paintball because if Tigers, Shock and Nexus can truly get on together, then we can develop that much faster.
We (Brits) got all 3 of our pro teams into the Sunday Club, just as we have 3 in the NPPL, this says a lot, we need to get consistency and one of the ways to achieve that is by high class dog-balling against each other, this is now possible for all 3 of us.

And one last note, and this is directed to some people, they know who they are; a sincere and genuine thank-you, it will not be forgotten !!!!!………….….
 

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Cheating has always been part of paintball and always will be however I would like to see the line drawn at velocity ramping. People who use these chips are just plain evil. If the ton tons were indeed shooting hot then **** them, they have no place in the pro paintball circuit and same goes for anyother teams with velocity ramping chips not only is it immoral its also breaking UK laws. (if they shot over 330fps).

ROF ramping and firing 16bps instead of 15bps is cheating aswell as we all know but in no way is it as dangerous (in my opinion) to shooting someone at 350+fps.

As for overly agressive play by the ton tons...I do think they got a chip of thier shoulder, sorta lets hurt them more cause they are gona hurt us or ill bonus ball him cause i know he would do the same to me. Thats not what paintball is about, I just think they gota stop acting like dicks on field and chill out more.

Fighting, arguing more than needed with the red, over aggressive play only hurts the sport and as with pro football I think should incur fines and bans. These guys are suppost to be professional sports people.

anyway just my opinion, been a long weekend.
 

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have to agree with you ryan on the FPS cheating

In Amsterdam in the Semi's i think while playing shockwave, lost the 2nd game due to having hot guns and in the 3rd game didn;t hung the flag so there guns weren't checked by the chrono which can only suggest they were again shooting hot!

and mixing ramping BPS (or in the case of TonTons PSP guns) and ramping FPS, someone is seriously gonna get hurt!

i honestly feel that TonTons shud have been DQ from Campaign CUP if not worse!