Originally posted by manike
Ahh so the very thing we are discussing, you admit you don't know about. Thanks for making my points.
Err, uh, not really, we're discussing the fact that a BC Spyder is running on timmy parts and the fact that a conversion from Spyder to timmy isn't impossible. You started going on in defense of the timmy saying how the new 2k4 isn't remotely like a Spyder at all because of certain features, and I admitedly couldn't dispute that having never owned or teched one.
err the fact that if you put one on the other the gun won't work? duh.
Ummm, I'm looking at one at the top of this thread. And some more at pbnation. Really seems to be working for those people. Unless they're just using their guns as decorative pieces.
I could force an angel LPR onto the gun, but it wouldn't work. Therefore it's not compatible.
A lesson for you kiddies out there.
Bull**** about the gun running his timmy with spyder block.
You're absolutely right, I was mistaken. He swapped blocks between his timmy and Spyder out of curiousity, but was obviously not able to put air to them. I'm not really sure what I was thinking when I wrote that, a Spyder block does have to be modded to run a timmy (HEAVILY by your standards, simply by mine. Drill, tap, screw in LPR)
The spyder that started this thread is not a spyder.
Very good! Now you're getting it.
It's almost totally a timmy.
Tell us more! Tell us more!
The only part that is 'spyder' is the body, which has been quite seriously milled. It's a timmy with a different body.
Quite seriously milled? What, a groove for top cocking? And a hole drilled for the ram barb? That's all you need to do to a stock Spyder body to run a conversion such as that. Hope nobody sees this and goes trying something crazy like that themselves
So in effect the differences are cosmetic and dimensional? Yay!
In the same manner that the difference between a pinto and a BMW is "cosmetic and dimensional", yes. They both operate on the same general principle of an electronic solenoid valve using low pressure air to control a pneumatic ram. They both use different bodies and parts to achieve their task, and one of them happens to use a body and parts unique to itself. Yes, I suppose different bodies and parts are different cosmetically and dimensionally.
the gun in the picture is so interesting. It looks like a spyder, but in effect only ONE part is, and that's been heavily modified.
The gun in the pic is interesting not because it looks like a spyder, but because it looks like a timmy. Because it IS a timmy built onto a Spyder. It's the body of a Spyder, using a Spyder bolt, barrel, and valve, with the highly proprietary timmy front block on the front, timmy ram in the lower tube, universal LP hoses and a solenoid, circuit board and a timmy gripframe screwed on, with only two modifications being needed to make it all work (one being drilling a hole for the ram barb, the other, which isn't absolutely necessary for this mod to occur, but is more functional, being to cut a groove for top cocking. Very heavy stuff. 13 year olds on PBN do top cocking mods to their Spyders and knock-off's every day, and anyone with a vice and a drill can make a hole).
The Rover SD1 looks like a Ferrari Daytona. But it's not. Some parts may even be compatible, but that doesn't make the Rover a Ferrari.
Come on now, Apples and Oranges. Automobiles are much higher functioning devices that require many more parts to carry out many more functions than a simple paintball marker. If the Rover SD1 could have it's body drilled and cut with simple tools and be able to accept everything from a Ferrari Daytona, with the exception of, say, it's fuel tank, that would be similar to the situation with Spyders and timmys.
Seem, but don't? Or are different? if they are different then they aren't the same are they
Uh. What?
Alright then, glad we cleared up.
As for the one kit... LMFAO! If you think that makes a syder work and feel like a timmy. You seriously think it gives you the 'same thing'? Have you actually used one? put one together? if you did, please let me know if it worked. The three I've tried didn't work at all.
Never done one, dont' care much for Spyders myself. I've seen ones that work though. Do they give you the same thing as an Intimidator? No. Like I said, it's like the Ebolt kit for Tippmann products. Do they give you improved performance and something similar to an Intimidator? Yeah, from what I've seen. The only reason I mentioned it was because it was brought up before by a curious poster. Does putting a timmy ram, front block, 'noid and board in your Spyder (as seen in the BC pic) give you the same thing as an Intimidator? OF COURSE NOT
I think you are talking without experience.
You know something, you're absolutely right. I take it all back. Timmy's are the best markers ever designed, truly original in every way shape and form. I bow to your infinite, unquesionable knowledge, and only hope that I can someday reach a high enough point that I can look up at your shoes. I can't believe I could have ever doubted you
Save the condescending attitude, it doesn't impress me like it does the people who lap up whatever you tell them because of your job title. You're obviously never going to let this subject go, and you aren't going to change my mind, so I'll let you have the last word and let this thread die. Boring conversation anyway.
