Yes of course but if your in a market where a £1000 a team is too much, but we still want the events then surley the organisers have to change for the customer?
So...What would make the perfect event?
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If it was a one-off event then I'd imagine any investor wanted big bucks for a big bang event.
If it was the start of a regular event then yes, they could cut back on initial profits in exchange for repeat business.
Fek - had never looked at that.
But there's still that level on uncertainty - the NPPL's seem to be worth the money. I've personally never played one, and people do bitch - but they get a fairly substantial number of teams at every event.
Perhaps something the industry itself could fund?
At the end of the day - events like this would only benefit the company's making the products?
Perhaps a team of appointed organisers with a proven track record?
Perhaps the final 8 or 16 in the top division should be filmed and aired, like the smart parts one?
Or is all that completely unrealistic?
When was the last time paintball companies actually worked together?
What if such an event was held at an existing field?
Are there any in the UK that could host, say, a 100 team event?
The 'atmosphere' can be created just about anywhere with some creativity.
The savings on insurance, permits, rent, and setup would be enormous.
Are there any in the UK that could host, say, a 100 team event?
The 'atmosphere' can be created just about anywhere with some creativity.
The savings on insurance, permits, rent, and setup would be enormous.
You might as well forget about the industry funding you a weekend of fun. First, it would cost so much anyone who'd agree to cover the bill would have to be mad and should be hospitalised at a mental institution. The cost of putting together a one-off event are even bigger than a whole series since the initial investment is at least as large as with the other one but you only get one chance per year to make that back.
And these events don't bring in enough direct profit to pay for the money spent to go there and set up a show, maybe except World Cup.
And these events don't bring in enough direct profit to pay for the money spent to go there and set up a show, maybe except World Cup.
Cost
£500-£600 per team Entry
Teams
Everybody but you need to make it worthwhile for them to come.
Field Layout
Doesn't really matter as long as they are done right, aggressive, defensive, balanced, maybe a field that is balanced but with a REALLY risky move to take a couple of key bunkers, and big centre 50's for all that run through stuff we all adore so much.
Style Of Play
CPL
Prizes
Hmm...no point winning £500 then splitting it 10 ways is there? I would go with gear from sponsors/trade stands.
Trade Stands
As many as you can, both paintball and non.
Location
High profile, that will make joe public go wow whats that, not some field in the middle of nowhere, not some beach in the middle of nowhere. You want a location that is already in the public eye and high profile, then you bring something new to it, instead of trying to bring people and public to you, take it to them. Easy to get flights to cheapish, hotels nearby etc.
Atmosphere
Why can't you have it all?? Good refs, good fields, good facilities? Great atmoshpere? Why do you feel you have to lose something to gain something else?
I'll break this one down.
Refs - Good unbias refs they are out there.
Fields - Designed by someone who knows something about paintball
Facilities - Easy, don't settle for the norm, end of the day if you approach the right companies then they will provide a service.
Atmosphere - Again, DJ's, bubble machines, something fun, end of the day paintball players are all big kids at heart, so, give them what they want, a laugh, bouncy castles, bouncy boxin(place bets now who will win Robbo or Nick), something stupid but fun!!! Beer, women, women and beer, and maybe some men thrown in for well, the FLC's etc
So there you go, I have so many ideas on how I would run an event, but hey, what do I know
Sid
£500-£600 per team Entry
Teams
Everybody but you need to make it worthwhile for them to come.
Field Layout
Doesn't really matter as long as they are done right, aggressive, defensive, balanced, maybe a field that is balanced but with a REALLY risky move to take a couple of key bunkers, and big centre 50's for all that run through stuff we all adore so much.
Style Of Play
CPL
Prizes
Hmm...no point winning £500 then splitting it 10 ways is there? I would go with gear from sponsors/trade stands.
Trade Stands
As many as you can, both paintball and non.
Location
High profile, that will make joe public go wow whats that, not some field in the middle of nowhere, not some beach in the middle of nowhere. You want a location that is already in the public eye and high profile, then you bring something new to it, instead of trying to bring people and public to you, take it to them. Easy to get flights to cheapish, hotels nearby etc.
Atmosphere
Why can't you have it all?? Good refs, good fields, good facilities? Great atmoshpere? Why do you feel you have to lose something to gain something else?
I'll break this one down.
Refs - Good unbias refs they are out there.
Fields - Designed by someone who knows something about paintball
Facilities - Easy, don't settle for the norm, end of the day if you approach the right companies then they will provide a service.
Atmosphere - Again, DJ's, bubble machines, something fun, end of the day paintball players are all big kids at heart, so, give them what they want, a laugh, bouncy castles, bouncy boxin(place bets now who will win Robbo or Nick), something stupid but fun!!! Beer, women, women and beer, and maybe some men thrown in for well, the FLC's etc
So there you go, I have so many ideas on how I would run an event, but hey, what do I know
Sid
Mucho Beerio?So there you go, I have so many ideas on how I would run an event, but hey, what do I know
Ah Cook$ I don't drink mate you know thatMucho Beerio?
Yes....BEER, water fights, foam tents, more beer, fun fun fun!!!
WDP nailed it years ago with Angel Heaven, free beer, half naked women, fruit(don't ask), sitting in the sun watching ball as the DJ played and you were served by stunning women....nailed....bring back Angel Heaven or the likes!!!
Sid
£500 per team, a fair price you may think but lets just analyse what the promoter has to do with that........ with a one day event.£50 a player....X-ball you would ideally have 10 players for rotation...thats £500 per team
Vendors would have to be there because thats how they make the money to sponsor the events...otherwise it wouldn't be worth them being there or sponsoring the event...
And it is kinda better to try before you buy i guess
the venue doesn't have to be "great" as in grand and expensive...it jst needs to be easy to get to and secure.
Lets start with before the event....
Phone calls - hundreds of them.
Site rental at least a grand a day and how many days do you need the site for ?
Marque hire about a grand per thirty teams.
Table hire you wouldn't believe how many you would need about £3-5 each
Insurance this is team entry dependant but no less than £40 per team.
Portable Toilets @ £70 per 4 teams.
Set up crew - site and entry dependant but allow six per ten teams and remember they will need hotels and food.
During Event
Field refs @£70 each Minimum 5 per field.
Field ultimates @£100 each 1 per field.
Off field staff @£60 each allow 3 per running field.
Food, water, a bucket load of administration equipment.
Then you need for each field.
Nets and Posts - well you do want the balls to stay infield don't you! they may be included with the site or they may cost you £1500 per field per event.
Bunkers - I have been to events where they seem to have forgot them but in this case lets give them some. About £4000 each field and if you are lucky you can use them ten times before they are out of date and you can struggle to sell them for less than half what you paid.
Chronographs £250 for each of the main ones allow two per field.
Hand held £55 and you need two a field.
Shot counters (if you are using ramping) two per field @ £80 each.
On field Blowers 1 per field @£90 each + fuel.
Computers for event and field admin if Xball allow one per five teams @ £350 each.
Major equipment cost IE Merlow(cherry pickers) about a £100 per weekend plus fuel each.
Would you like security! well £60 each one please minimum.
First aid well St Johns want £300 per pair of staff.
Normal first aiders to comply with your insurance! the course is £80 each and you need a minimum of two per 100 players.
Don't forget all the fuel you are going to use reckon on £3-5 per team.
Portable generators those computer batteries don't last that long. £120 each and you also need all those extension cables wont you.
Would you like air for those guns.... well £65 per team for a ramping tournament.
Would you also like seating to to watch some of the good games well in the UK a seating stand works out at about £12 per seat.
After event.
Clean up and take down crew, six people per two fields per day, you could do it in one day depending on the clean up required either way the staff would be from the event so would have needed a hotel the night before as well as wages.
Have you also committed to pay some travel expenses !
Oh don't forget the tax-mans bit with VAT and other **** he gets of everyone.
Fifty quid each ................ how
Russ
