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right this is what i know sam and chris!!!

Originally posted by jinx76

anyway lads on the negativity about sponsorship if people had read the thread about sky properly in the first place they wouldn't have used it as a bargaining tool when applying for sponsorship i know this may turn out bad for those teams and the sport even but what u gotta say it is not hatts and gillie's fault if sky were to pull out or only slightly televise it.
The thread from rusell says 'The League will be televised by Sky'

That gives me the impression that the league will be televised, every event. And that was exactly the impression that the post was designed to give everyone.

Sponsors would have been told by managers 'The League will be televised by Sky'. If it is not the case then that IS the fault of the PA organisation.
 

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sam not to start a argument but 4 post down i beleive it says this!!!

Matt.

What can i say when we get a deal like this from a company like sky we cannot demand to know what time slot or how many programmes they will show but thats all down to the teams who attend to make it what they need to see.

But it will get air time and thats what your sponsors want.

russell rulebook smith : quote

this is what he says and i am not the person to speak to if u want to flame the p.a. then maybe u should speak to russell hatt's gillie liz as they are the organisers/organgrinders.

regards
 

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Re: right this is what i know sam and chris!!!

Originally posted by sjt19
The thread from rusell says 'The League will be televised by Sky'

That gives me the impression that the league will be televised, every event. And that was exactly the impression that the post was designed to give everyone.

Sponsors would have been told by managers 'The League will be televised by Sky'. If it is not the case then that IS the fault of the PA organisation.
Quite right Sam the league will be televised on sky but I have never said they will film every event.
Indeed Hatts posted a long time ago that the PA would not let them any way near the first event.
But I promise you that you will see some PA league games on sky this year.

Sam the PA are not in this for there own gains indeed if you knew what i do you would give us some of your own money :) .
But how many UK baised paintball events have you had the tv and non paintball press turn up uninvited asking if they can come in - well I have seen it twice once at the PA Cup and also last sunday at the PA League.
 
Originally posted by sjt19
Seems to me that one of the major points of the PA league was that there was going to be SKY coverage. Thats what teams would have said to sponsors and outside industry sponsors. The sky coverage validated the decision by some players to enter their teams into the PA league rather than other leagues who were holding events on the same day.

The fact that Sky were not there is a bit off. Were people told in advance of entering the series that sky would only be at the third event onwards? If they had would as many teams have entered?

A cynic may say that the Sky carrot was dangled as a means to entice teams away from other leagues, when in actuality nothing had been agreed.

What happends when the sponsors of teams turn around and acuse the teams of lying about the Sky sports involvement?
Sorry? What a load of absolute crap! When did you get appointed to the PA comittee without me noticing? As that's the only way you would know fully what's going on. But wait...is this yet another attempt to sow the seed of discord and discredit the PA and turn me into a liar? Certainly reads like one!

Right. Lets get this clear right from the off, kick these lame accusations into touch and address them as what they appear to be...

Fact. Sky coverage was NEVER one of the major points of the PA league. It was a bonus that came as result of the PA league and all the frkkin hard work we've put into trying to elevate the status & awareness of paintball, rather than just raping the players wallets for a quick profit.

Fact. Not one single team registered with the PA as a result of the Sky Sports announcment. Nearly all the teams were either already talking to us or already booked. So the accusation that we used it to "steal" teams from other series is b*ll*cks!

Fact. Only 1 team registered after this anouncement that wasn't already talking to us and they were thinking of coming on board anyway. Accusation is therefore still b*ll*cks!

Fact. There is a deal in place to put the PA league on Sky Sports. What kind of half wit moron thinks I'm actually stupid enough to approach potential sponsors with a claim like that and not be able to back it up?

Fact. I've already said several times that we didn't invite them to the first event, and probably not the second event either as we knew we'd have a lot of teething troubles to iron out. Hence the reason they weren't there. The idea is to present a slick professional image, preferably in nice sunny weather and also give all the teams a chance to get their nice new shirts beforehand.

Fact. We never even hinted that the entire series would be covered. What we said was it would be featured on Sky Sports. If that happens to be at 2am on a Thursday morning for the same 6minutes & 27 seconds like the European indoor got 4 years ago then so be it.

So it "seems to me" that either a) you really don't know what you're talking about or b) trying to find an angle to discredit myself, the PA and everyone who's worked so hard to support it.

I actually wasn't going to espond to this post, but then I thought why the hell not.

Might I suggest you check your facts before shooting your mouth off? You never know you might actually learn something...oh and don't EVER call me a liar which seems to be the intimation of your post. If I say I'm doing somwething..I frikkn well do it.
 

Russell Smith

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sam not to start a argument but 4 post down i beleive it says this!!!

Originally posted by jinx76




then maybe u should speak to russell hatt's gillie liz as they are the organisers/organgrinders.



regards

Can I just put this right

Andy and Gillie Hatton are the organisers.

Myself and Liz just help out where we can because we believe in the PA concept.
 

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well said hatts

was trying to tell him but it wasn't my place to say it and i know some of the huge outlays etc mate and know that u are not at all in it for the money.

would just like to say i enjoyed saterday and sunday and didn't get to say cheers for dinner on saterday night mate see u at the next one and if u want help on the saterday then i am ready willing and able again ok mate???

see u soon mate

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Originally posted by Hatts
..............So it "seems to me" that either a) you really don't know what you're talking about or b) trying to find an angle to discredit myself, the PA and everyone who's worked so hard to support it.

I actually wasn't going to espond to this post, but then I thought why the hell not.

Might I suggest you check your facts before shooting your mouth off? You never know you might actually learn something...oh and don't EVER call me a liar which seems to be the intimation of your post. If I say I'm doing somwething..I frikkn well do it.
erm.......chill. Ok, the thread was started to find out how the whole tv thing was going. I dont really want to discredit anything or anybody.....and yes we didnt know what we were talking about which is why we were askin the frickin questions!!!!!

u dont learn anything unless you ask!!!

and sams post is just a "what if" doesnt actually say u all sat down in an evil meeting and planned to take over the world. Yes ppl have worked their asses off for this but dude, lighten up and respond to the post in the right manner, that of answering a query....u being the person who can actually answer them:rolleyes: :)

peace
 

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Very interesting post Indeed

All i can say is I wish the Pa, Pgi, bullys and any other paintball comp, the very best,

I also hope the Pa get a great coverage from sky , it would be a Fantastic BOOST for the whole sport, and im sure it would attract a bigger audience each time its screened,

Sounds like the PA went really well on sunday , and im sure the next one will be even better , it sounds to me that theres gonna be some big changes in how to run a event, and for the better, hence the starts of all the games at once ,

Fantacy Paint ball great idea again , this also would attract teams , Cmon guys stop bitching and give these guys a chance,
im sure you wont be dissapointed .

just my 2p worth
 

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Originally posted by Chris - Nexus Eclipse
erm.......chill. Ok, the thread was started to find out how the whole tv thing was going. I dont really want to discredit anything or anybody.....and yes we didnt know what we were talking about which is why we were askin the frickin questions!!!!!

u dont learn anything unless you ask!!!

and sams post is just a "what if" doesnt actually say u all sat down in an evil meeting and planned to take over the world. Yes ppl have worked their asses off for this but dude, lighten up and respond to the post in the right manner, that of answering a query....u being the person who can actually answer them:rolleyes: :)

peace
Dude, he wasn't having a go at you.......... you just asked a question....... it was the other bloke who called him a liar..... he answered the post then defended himslef against someone who called his methods into disrepute.

Weird really......... I asked Hatt ages ago about what the sky thing entailed and got a straight, accurate answer....... as always........ so for the people who had a go......... you only needed to ask.
And for anyone taking a pop at the PA and it's organisers...... where you there? hell no, as if you were you wouldn't open your mouth.