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Robbo

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Originally posted by TJ Lambini
S'cool, I just felt you were being a lil ruff on our friend Quiksilver, but maybe I'm being oversensitive.

And the MoFo thang was sooooooooooooo obviously a joke.

Even Chris friom Sad got it, and he's a total moron.

:p

Peace

I obviously gooooooooooooot the joke but did all the others ?
I mean, if I were the parent of a prospective young paintballer looking over his shoulder, joke or no joke, it would set me thinking ..........
But TJ, never forget this............I got ya with the 'ign.....' thingy !! Hee hee :)
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going back to the tittle of the thread :D. I have used a number of Shocktech products and the only bad thing about them is the price but i suppose u pay a high price 4 quality. Some interesting points have come up and i agree with paul, it is the player not the gun but Of course the quality of the guns being used will enhance the players skills/chances of winning. Its a fact. I mean y do u think people use Angels, its cause they talk to u in games and tell u what day of the week it is :D and if thats not a game winning advantage for a player to have i dont know what is.

(whisper) dont cus Shocktech in front of robbo, he doesnt like it
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Dicksilver...ooohh I mean Quicksilver :)

Originally posted by Robbo



Oh My God,
the end of the world must be truly nigh !!!
I have just read Bad Company being used as an example of ability over hardware :)
But I do see your point Paul but hopefully you see mine also that no matter what your skill level, there is a point when hardware does impinge upon performance and if you were to believe Quicksilver's comments then no team could overcome products that 'sucked ass', not even Aftershock !
Robbo
Oh yeah absolutley I see your point, if I didn't see your point I'd still be playing with my spyder lol :D
 

QuikSilver

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Ok well first of all, it is well known that any team that has a full sponsorship (I.E. AfterShock) by a certain company does not have the 'standard' gun or accessories. They use the best from a batch, or possibly specialy made parts. Another thing is that every member of AfterShock knows their gun better than anyone else, fine tuning them to perfection... Not to mention various members of AfterShock actually own Shocktech...

Take Bad Company for example (once again). Do you think they use Spyders becuz they really like them? Hell no, they were paid like $1,000,000 by kingman to use spyders. And there is no way they are using stock spyders... Those things must be modified up the waazoo. From what I've seen of spyders, there is no way they would be able to satisfy a 'Pro' player.

And… Every part that I’ve bought of Shocktech was machined poorly or completely wrong. Except, and I repeat, ONE drop forward.

1: Cocker trigger frame. Machined very poorly with small chips of metal hanging off every where. Further more, the frame would not work with Shocktech’s very own trigger plate.

2: Shocktech Venturi bolt for my little cousin’s spyder. The face of the bolt was drilled incredibly off center. Useless.

3: Shocktech Bomb 3way. After returning one bomb becuz it would not screw into the front block, I purchased a new one. The second had a nipple that was just “stuck in there.” There were no threads holding it in the valve body. This worked fine for a few games… then one day it just popped off during a game pissing air everywhere.

Sorry, but I cannot stand having things break time after time, especially since they’re brand new.

AND, it is my opinion based on personal experience. I don’t want to make enemies on this board but I am not going to hold back just to keep some big paintball name happy.
 

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Originally posted by QuikSilver
Ok well first of all, it is well known that any team that has a full sponsorship (I.E. AfterShock) by a certain company does not have the 'standard' gun or accessories. They use the best from a batch, or possibly specialy made parts. Another thing is that every member of AfterShock knows their gun better than anyone else, fine tuning them to perfection... Not to mention various members of AfterShock actually own Shocktech...

Take Bad Company for example (once again). Do you think they use Spyders becuz they really like them? Hell no, they were paid like $1,000,000 by kingman to use spyders. And there is no way they are using stock spyders... Those things must be modified up the waazoo. From what I've seen of spyders, there is no way they would be able to satisfy a 'Pro' player.

And… Every part that I’ve bought of Shocktech was machined poorly or completely wrong. Except, and I repeat, ONE drop forward.

1: Cocker trigger frame. Machined very poorly with small chips of metal hanging off every where. Further more, the frame would not work with Shocktech’s very own trigger plate.

2: Shocktech Venturi bolt for my little cousin’s spyder. The face of the bolt was drilled incredibly off center. Useless.

3: Shocktech Bomb 3way. After returning one bomb becuz it would not screw into the front block, I purchased a new one. The second had a nipple that was just “stuck in there.” There were no threads holding it in the valve body. This worked fine for a few games… then one day it just popped off during a game pissing air everywhere.

Sorry, but I cannot stand having things break time after time, especially since they’re brand new.

AND, it is my opinion based on personal experience. I don’t want to make enemies on this board but I am not going to hold back just to keep some big paintball name happy.

Quick,
you sound as though you have had a few problems with some of the products you have bought in the past, I am not in any way disputing that.
What I will take issue with, is the way you did it.
First up, the subject of your initial post being 'Cocktech', hmmm ok, whatever.
Secondly, it is a myth to believe that the pros on, say Aftershock, use anything other than stock Shocktech parts.
I'm afraid Quick, that's exactly what they use, stock Shocktech Cockers, stock SFL's and stock accessories.
Newbie players like to think that the pros use all fan-dangoed gizmo **** that nobody else can get their hands on because it is easier to believe that than consider the alternative, that the pros are just better players.
Some of your other points are spot on but bearing in mind what I have just said, I don't think Aftershock could have attained that degree of success with products that exhibited the same degree of performance or reliability that u suggest.
Everybody gets naff gear every now and again, and some unfortunates get more than fair share and it looks as though you are one of them I am sorry to say.
I am sure if you had called Renick at BBT and explained the situation he would have taken care of you in a heartbeat but you chose to come on this site and bad mouth his gear without really considering whether or not your experience was representative.
I suppose, there are better ways of doing what you did is what I am trying to say.
Anyway, if you return all the faulty products to Renick at BBT and explain to him what I have said, I am sure he will make good any problems you have had.
And as for you holding back so as not to piss me off, I would much rather (from a personal point of view) for you to be honest and opinionated than to say nothing at all.
Anything u need from my end, just email me at robbo@paintballgamesmag.com
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Inferno

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Originally posted by Robbo


Rolls Royce sucks ass
Muhammed Ali can't fight
Michael Jordan can't play basketball
APG is a good paintball magazine
PGI is a crap magazine
Turks are better than the Russian Legion

All opinions...all crap !!!!!!!!!!!!

Just my opinion u understand !!!!!
Robbo
I've been playing rec-ball for about three years now, and my regional scene is beginning to tire me. I have been picking up magazines at newstands to see what is going on outside of my region, especially tournaments. I have seen several magazines that left much to be desired until I came across a copy of APG. It seemed a leap ahead of the other magazines I had seen. Just out of curiousity, why do you believe that PGI is better than APG? Bear in mind that I have yet to read PGI, and only have a couple of other magazines to use as a reference point.
Carlos
 

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beg borrow or steal a copy of PGI and the answer will be right in front of you. Every player you ever heard of, ask 'em what their fave P8nt mag is and they'll all tell you PGI. Why?

Well for starters, totally unbiased coverage of tourneys, markers, gear, everything.

For seconds, writers: how's about Robbo, Justin Owen, Tyger, Rick Martin, Erik Felix, Ravi Chopra, Jack Wood, Bob Long, Adam Gardner, Chris Lasoya, 2-E...I could go on. Basically, the world's best tourney and rec players have written on tactics, technique, equipment selection, yadda yadda yadda for PGI.

Lastly, it's Goddam funny dude...sacred cows get slaughtered every issue.

Trust me Carlos, buy PGI and you'll never buy another mag.

Peace.