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Robbo - Rage incident

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Baca Loco

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Originally posted by knobbs
But as you've stated, it's not the rules committee's job to enforce the law...just create it.
1--The refs will enforce it.
2--Pete being a coach doesn't compromise his expertise in the game and rulemaking.
3--And since the rules committee has nothing to do with enforcing the rules (as far as I know, the refs don't answer to the rules committee) his dual role is no conflict of interests.

4--I've also not seen anywhere other than here that anyone thought he got any different treatment from being on the rules committee. In fact, the proof says otherwise. Both Robbo and the Rage player got the same penalty. If they'd have been biased to Robbo, they'd have said he acted in self defense and only penalized the Rage player.
It's been swell to see the let's hate on raehl crowd get all worked up once again--just like old times and certainly good for the forum but are you peeps just plain stupid? Or merely mindlessly loyal? Every argument raehl has made regarding this issue has been, more or less, right on and it's completely irrelevant who was involved.

1--and yet, over and over again refs end up over the heads in one sort of situation or another and everyone runs for cover instead of figuring out how to deal with these repeated messes that diminish the league, the sport and the participants.
2--was Pete being a coach? Do coaches belong on the field regardless of receiving or not receiving "permission"? While arguing his case as coach are the refs being confronted going to completely discount Pete's role as a Rules Committee member? And what does his expertise as a Rules Committee member have to do with acting as a coach? See, the problem is when he is both, he can't act independently no matter how scrupulously he tries. No slam aimed at Pete--he's my boy--it's simple fact 'cus it relies, in large measure, on the perceptions of others.
3--that is perhaps the most naive statement I've read here in recent memory.
4--Sorry, wrong-o. The ruling doesn't conform to the rules as written--they were contorted to fit the situation and help it go away without causing too much trouble. Rage got off easy, as did, IMO, Pete.

Jon--unfortunately the video won't accomplish anything particularly without sound. People will simply "read it" with whatever bias they had going in. There is, however, an opportunity to examine this situation and see where and how the NPPL and PB in general can move forward.

Yeah, right. Fat chance.
 

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i'd just like to say raehl, your posts are mind numbingly boring...mine are as well but i only ever take the piss...your actually serious.....ah well....
 

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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
1--As you can read above, I fiercely disagree with you.

2--And - you should know I'm not particularly a "Robbo fan"...... although I do respect the old man ;)

3--In most any professional sport, the league (or equivalent) consult team managers on a variety of subjects, not least the rules..... I fail to see why paintball should be any different ?

4--The whole Chuck/Dynasty issue were a good deal different, because Chuck actually ran the league, paid the refs, helped set up fields, etc.

5--BTW - aren't you supposed to be banned ? ;)

Nick
1--I did notice that, silly Dane. :D
2--and you should know, despite our infrequent heated exchanges, I like old Chrome Dome even when I disagree with him.
3--sure, as soon as PB has the sort of developed structure as other long-standing sports, I'm fine with that but right now it doesn't. Team executives of the NFL or NBA do make decisions related to rules, league operation and so on but only in the context of the whole league. Anybody who has anything to say publically about the course of a particular game or team gets fined. Nor does any professional American sport or most amatuer variations allow coaches on the field of competition--again, the result is potential fines or penalties.
Currently, PB is small enough that too many roles are filled by a limited number of people. This I understand is an almost unavoidable circumstance. But the trade-off, in order to protect the integrity of the game, has to be a strict accounting of those individuals with every possible effort made to avoid any situation that appears to be a conflict of interest or gives the powerful some advantage not available to everyone else.
4--same situation, different scale of importance. And you will recall the long list of those who dissed that whole situation, eh? ;)
5--not banned, worse--powerless!:eek: Except of course for my way with words. :rolleyes: :)
 

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Dont forget that the NPPL asked him to join the rules commitee this season, and they definetely had to know of his affiliation to Nexus. Other than that I would have to say that Rage obviously started this confrontation and should be punished accordingly. Would the ref have let him on the field if he wasn't Robbo? It's the first I've seen of coaches coming onto the field.
 
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Why was only 1 Rage player Fined/Banned

>>at which point one Rage player left the deadbox and ran toward me. I defended myself by grabbing him to stop him hitting me, at which point four other Rage players came out, surrounded me and basically started beating on me.<<

What i am wondering the most is how come only ONE rage Player got fined and banned for a Day,
when apparently 5 in total were showing some gross misconduct (understatement) ??

ok i can think of a reason
with more Rage players banned they couldn't play anymore
and that might mess up the schedule/tournament
but that should IMO never be a valid reason
 
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