RIP Rushers???? Team England for good...

[Giles]

No apologoes required Richard and I do wish them all the luck and hope they find the right formula, as I have said in previous posts,

I have been playing nearly 15 years and in all that time have seen this new great hope try to succeed and watched the hype and watched the usual people jump on the backs like I am now

But I was asked and I have posted my opinion, I do belive it will take a very long time, I would rather that they play PRO before they made this jump for a new team

 

[Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK]

I would rather that they play PRO before they made this jump for a new team

Sorry? I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that you would prefer it if all the teams that these guys played on played a season of Pro'ball before they were brought together? Why, surely if they are the best players, then to get the best learning experience they should learn together.

Sorry if I have misunderstood, if I have, what do you mean?

Richard

 

[Baca Loco]

Is'plain enuf

Originally posted by manike
Then how come the top american Am teams that come over to Europe, consistenly fail to make the Am finals in Europe? I'm thinking of Trauma, Bushwhackers and Adrenalin who have played over here recently...
Granted their pro's blow us away, but their Am teams don't when playing other Euro Am's...
manike

1--apologies to J-Lo but Adrenalin ain't a top Am team--yet, and neither is the current version of the 'wackers.
2--who's to say the best 7 of any of those teams made the trip(s) over to play? It's often tough enuf for Am teams to make the regular circuit much less Euro events and while the Pros can and do take 7 or 8 available players and play well it's that much more difficult at the Am level. And we still haven't talked about the differences in playing 10 to 7 and it comes down to how the mid's react, the demands and timing are different.

If the situation was reversed and this argument has been made numerous times--"How can you expect us to compete at a type of game we don't regularly play?" Actually, I'd say it's fairly remarkable that most U.S. am teams that play a Euro event generally do what would normally be considered very well except they're Americans and you expect them to roll y'all up.

 

[TJ 2]

Richard - that snip you took was me quoting Giles back at him

Giles - Have talked to Robo on tha phone bout his plans and strategies for training and they're very interesting - dunno what sorta terms you're on with him but if they're good then call him up, be interested to see what you make of 'em given that you and he went along the same experiential road for quite some time.

Cow - Damn straight. How did you find tha switch from 10s to 7s at IAO?

 

[TJ 2]

Richard - seeing as Giles ain't here I'll attempt to answer for him (How presumptious of me...)

You follow soccer? Well often you get the best new young players from your premiership or Serie A who kick ass week in, week out, at that level, yet struggle to adjust to playing Champions League soccer cos it's a different game...I think that may be where Giles is coming from.

Or I could be completely wrong...

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by TJ 2
Cow - Damn straight. How did you find tha switch from 10s to 7s at IAO?

Two of us had played 7 before and to make up the difference we prepped the crap outta those fields and I made a big and repeated point of how quickly we needed to get certain things done and the guys generally stepped up and did it. And with the fields as short as they were I had opportunities to run up and force the close out a few times.

 

[Giles]

back on line


A couple of points richard, whose saying they are the best and best of what, best of our am section or PRO players
I was refering to Rushers playing the PRO scene for a while as a bunch, I also believe that when the team forms they would be better playing AM in the US before they venture PRO league
Very similar to TJs liking but I would go further consitancy would put our AM section in a 3rd division compared to US pros in the top flight consistantly they will be hammered by top US teams aqnd even struggle against the lower based teams

And Baca I belive the top us AM teams are on a par with some of the UK pro teams that still exist discounting Shockwave of course

 

[Giles]

Giles - Have talked to Robo on tha phone bout his plans and strategies for training and they're very interesting - dunno what sorta terms you're on with him but if they're good then call him up, be interested to see what you make of 'em given that you and he went along the same experiential road for quite some time.

Well TJ

No I do not speak to Peter for reasons explained on here before
Now I really feel for the team and will not bore you with what will happen in the end, many many times this has happened before

Do you believe Peter has the credentials to train and succeed in this area then and if so what do you base your opinion on
Its not a successful area for him and never has been, he has some success with training Novice to Am level

 

[Matski]

Who remembers the original Backlash, and what became of them?

 

[Liz]

Originally posted by Giles
I was refering to Rushers playing the PRO scene for a while as a bunch, I also believe that when the team forms they would be better playing AM in the US before they venture PRO league

Giles, I don't quite understand what you mean by the Rushers playing Pro as a forerunner to the new team playing pro. This new team just happens to have 3 ex-Rushers in it but is definitely NOT a Rushers team with a few add-ins, so I fail to see the relevance.

It could be that the reason the players in the new team haven't been playing at pro up 'till now isn't that they as individuals aren't up to the standard but more that either the rest of the team wasn't good enough or just as likely that the blend wasn't quite right. On the other hand, I think I see where you're coming from in that going up that extra level can be a bit of a shock & it would be useful to have some members who had experienced the Pro scene before. That said, in Millenniums these days you all get to meet Pro teams at some time, & there's enough experience with players like Jack Woods & Mark Toye to cope IMHO.