Red Heat officialy leave PA

[sjt19]

Originally posted by Edd Hobday
It is untested. Has anyone done a 7-man X-ball style format in this country before? Has anyone run two events along side each other, both using different formats on a monthly basis?

-EDD

All 7 man Xball will be is fast turnarounds. Its not untested, we do it all the time in training. As for 2 events run at one event...if only Niall and Andy had done that before........hang on, there was Xball at Campaign Cup wasnt there? Twice if i remember right

Having one field with separate judges and its own everything, is not complicated. It wont take any kind of superhuman effort

You make it sound as if it will be paintball with huge balls, while standing on our hands. It is still the same as it was before, just faster turnarounds. No sweat.

Also on a separate point, one thig people tell me the PA is so great for is the promotion and relegation and locked divisions. If that is the case, then how come teams are invited in by the organisers? Tigers went straight in to Div 1, and Hatts intended for us to go in as well. Is it only a locked league when it is convenient for the organiser for it to be? And they are free to bend the rules for anyone they like/want in? I cant see he NPPL suddenly putting a team into the top 18 just because they feel like it. Another example of how the PA are just a two bit league

 

[Matski]

Originally posted by Edd Hobday
It is untested. Has anyone done a 7-man X-ball style format in this country before? Has anyone run two events along side each other, both using different formats on a monthly basis?

If BMW bring out a car which runs on what most people on the forums talk, bulls**t, its untested. End of!

-EDD

Niall and Scutty have been organising events well before you started playing EDD. They are competent event organisers, just like BMW are competent car makers. There is an expected quality you can trust in...Yes it's untested in the total sense, but with the support and coverage that it will receive, it aint gonna be a clown show.

As for running two events with different formats along side each other, try an entire Millennium event with EXL on the side...


EDIT: Bah beat me to it, fast typing *******

 

[sjt19]

Originally posted by matski


EDIT: Bah beat me to it, fast typing *******

hehe

 

[Edd Hobday]

You both seem to have missed the monthly part of my statment

From Campaign 04 all that was heard from teams that weren't playing X-ball was that they felt shut out/put to one side. Not saying it'll happen at these events but i'll be intesresting to see how it's gona work.

In responce to what the PA has to offer other than promotion etc. One of the big draws for me is the quick turn arounds.They've cut out the waiting round between games, which at other series have been upto 1 and 1/2 hours for me before. It's a small thing but makes the day much more enjoyable IMO.

-EDD

 

[mad dog]

Originally posted by Edd Hobday
You both seem to have missed the monthly part of my statment

From Campaign 04 all that was heard from teams that weren't playing X-ball was that they felt shut out/put to one side. Not saying it'll happen at these events but i'll be intesresting to see how it's gona work.

In responce to what the PA has to offer other than promotion etc. One of the big draws for me is the quick turn arounds.They've cut out the waiting round between games, which at other series have been upto 1 and 1/2 hours for me before. It's a small thing but makes the day much more enjoyable IMO.

-EDD

Ok hear we go look certain organisors have been running things for years and they have made mistakes and learnt by them. And are still learning.
We are not perfect but then maybe some organisors think they are.

We basically want to play a game and enjoy it but to compete at a high level brings commitment and money, loads and loads of it.
We would love the level of sponsorship of higher teams but it costs in love, sweat, and tears, and bank loans.

Many teams run on hype and illusion dont they, some play and play and play, this is what makes them better. Hense companies giving them sponsorship.

Get the picture, we strive to be better and win but we arnt getting anywhere with the bull being dished out through tournaments and using your good natures to promote thier games not your thoughts or wishes.

We are the players , we pay the money, we want the best hense we strive for the ultimate game, or winning.

I have been lucky enough to play with some top teams and have seen a lot of things some players dont see.

But I will say this the likes of Robbo, Pete and crew from Tigers who show the utter most respect and Kellys who I basically grew up with from woods to sup air, I respect all of you and your views because they will talk to you straight and wont give you bull****.

Things arnt free, everything gets paid for in some sort of way, but with your mind set on playing and being a better player, you will get noticed.

So many players out there have not been spotted yet!

An idea was thought of and it was great then the bubble burst, the dream ended for me and I saw the light.

Shame yes, upset no, I hate threats and lies.

Well The score is now we have to work for our time being the best and for some of you the reality is striking home very hard, tough get out there and play. NOTHING IS FREE

I know this is petty but oh well,
I even wrote a make shift piece in a magazine, they could not even have the decent manners to send me a free copies of what I wrote, where have all the manners gone in the world , especially when it was done for free directed at new players coming in from recball.I have only ever been interested in taking paintball forward.

Yes I may have attitude, but without it I would not be a competitive player.

I have never been let down in all the years by any MM or Midlands organisors and respect the UKPSF as in ideas and rules.

I always feel I can phone them and talk to them about anything and are well received no matter how much crap I talk to them. Enough Said!

Good luck to any other tournaments starting up and hope they learn by all of this, its all about getting it right and keeping customers happy.

The idea is a simple thing, and its been coming but just needed a kick, to be the best now is going to take more than just talk!

Prove your team and play hard ball, and improve UK Paintball

 

[Cro]

Originally posted by sjt19
Also on a separate point, one thig people tell me the PA is so great for is the promotion and relegation and locked divisions. If that is the case, then how come teams are invited in by the organisers? Tigers went straight in to Div 1, and Hatts intended for us to go in as well. Is it only a locked league when it is convenient for the organiser for it to be? And they are free to bend the rules for anyone they like/want in? I cant see he NPPL suddenly putting a team into the top 18 just because they feel like it. Another example of how the PA are just a two bit league

Take a look back at some older threads m8, the PA said that the divs would be locked once consistancy was gained, until that point teams would be put in to the divs that the PA believe they should be in, and that is taken from the stats of the players they register. The PA divs will be locked, it's just a case of when everything is sorted and consistancy is gained. Rome wasn't built in a day.

One thing that does make me laugh is all the PA hate, it's been there since day one. If you don't like what the PA are doing then go do something else, if you don't like something that someone has said then ignore it. I can't be the only one getting really tired of reading the same moaning drivel from the same people all the time.

If you want to play the PA then play it, if you want to play other events then play them, but for christ sake just play what you want and stop moaning about what you not.

To use the examples above, I drive a Ford Focus, Why? Well I think it's a good all round car, I don't drive a BMW because I don't like what they did with Rover, yes they are good quality cars but my consience (sp?) doesn't allow me to buy one. Do I go around moaning about this? Do I spread the hate I feel for BMW? NO!!!!! I get on with my life and let others do the same.

 

[Banzi]

Originally posted by Cro
Take a look back at some older threads m8, the PA said that the divs would be locked once consistancy was gained, until that point teams would be put in to the divs that the PA believe they should be in, and that is taken from the stats of the players they register. The PA divs will be locked, it's just a case of when everything is sorted and consistancy is gained. Rome wasn't built in a day.

One thing that does make me laugh is all the PA hate, it's been there since day one. If you don't like what the PA are doing then go do something else, if you don't like something that someone has said then ignore it. I can't be the only one getting really tired of reading the same moaning drivel from the same people all the time.

If you want to play the PA then play it, if you want to play other events then play them, but for christ sake just play what you want and stop moaning about what you not.

To use the examples above, I drive a Ford Focus, Why? Well I think it's a good all round car, I don't drive a BMW because I don't like what they did with Rover, yes they are good quality cars but my consience (sp?) doesn't allow me to buy one. Do I go around moaning about this? Do I spread the hate I feel for BMW? NO!!!!! I get on with my life and let others do the same.

Couldn't have put it better myself,

If as much energy went into promoting Paintball as there is in moaning and bitchin about it, imagine what could be achieved.

 

[Mario]

btw congrats red heat on an excellent bit of self promotion.

Your team name at the top of the boards for well over a week. and with your sigs as well. Nice one

 

[stongle]

Originally posted by Cro
Take a look back at some older threads m8, the PA said that the divs would be locked once consistancy was gained, until that point teams would be put in to the divs that the PA believe they should be in, and that is taken from the stats of the players they register. The PA divs will be locked, it's just a case of when everything is sorted and consistancy is gained. Rome wasn't built in a day.

One thing that does make me laugh is all the PA hate, it's been there since day one. If you don't like what the PA are doing then go do something else, if you don't like something that someone has said then ignore it. I can't be the only one getting really tired of reading the same moaning drivel from the same people all the time.

If you want to play the PA then play it, if you want to play other events then play them, but for christ sake just play what you want and stop moaning about what you not.

To use the examples above, I drive a Ford Focus, Why? Well I think it's a good all round car, I don't drive a BMW because I don't like what they did with Rover, yes they are good quality cars but my consience (sp?) doesn't allow me to buy one. Do I go around moaning about this? Do I spread the hate I feel for BMW? NO!!!!! I get on with my life and let others do the same.

Fair to a point, but wanton self promotion, and claiming to be something your not, and then using clever word plays when questioned is going to breed some criticism.

Sure thus far the PA is the best run and organised UK event save the CC, however it does not represent the best in UK Paintball!

Credit where credit is due they've done a lot of good and implemented good ideas, but promotional spin and the burn the heretic / non-believer attitude doesn't help.

Anyway are Red Heat playing Pro-Tour?

 

[Cro]

Originally posted by stongle
Fair to a point, but wanton self promotion, and claiming to be something your not, and then using clever word plays when questioned is going to breed some criticism.

True enough but I'm not seeing a whole lot of criticism, just lots of hate, moaning and general bitching. This leagues better than that league, ooooh Yeah but my dads bigger than yours, is exactly the sort of juvenile rubbish that does no one any good what so ever. If there was to be more constructive criticism then maybe, just maybe we could get some where.