Only 8 prelim gmes in MS
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Yeah baby! That's the thing to do. I would also like to see a field that was dedicated just to paying walk-on customers so that peepz who aren't with a team, just walked up and are curious and those in between games could PLAY. That's the way it was at the first major event I attended in Nashville, Tennessee (Masters). It was FUN and so was playing after the tournament.
Mr Merkin
Great idea BUT what is even better is to do what they do in Rugby 7's tournaments.
Once teams are eliminated from the main show they play off for lesser prizes - that is there is the cup, shield, bowl etc
This would provide Sunday Club paintball for alot more teams, albeit for minor kudos
All the fields would therfore be used Sunday too!!
Great idea BUT what is even better is to do what they do in Rugby 7's tournaments.
Once teams are eliminated from the main show they play off for lesser prizes - that is there is the cup, shield, bowl etc
This would provide Sunday Club paintball for alot more teams, albeit for minor kudos
All the fields would therfore be used Sunday too!!
i think the idea was to have a field where there are no refs, cause that costs a lot of money to keep refs on.
The point is the fields are set up already, so there's no added cost to the promoter, and just a load of players who get a chance to play some extra paintball.
Alternativly, a 1v1 competition open to all players who didn't make the sunday club, a small entry fee to cover the cost of a few refs and some prizes would be good too.
I guess the point is this: the Millennium Series Promoters need to think long and hard about how they're going to keep the atmosphere going, especially as they are taking 'value' away from the customers. Otherwise they're going to lose thier bread and butter teams.
There has to be more to Sundays than drinking beer, wandering the trade village, and wishing you were playing...
I know, cause we were there almost the entire season last year...
The point is the fields are set up already, so there's no added cost to the promoter, and just a load of players who get a chance to play some extra paintball.
Alternativly, a 1v1 competition open to all players who didn't make the sunday club, a small entry fee to cover the cost of a few refs and some prizes would be good too.
I guess the point is this: the Millennium Series Promoters need to think long and hard about how they're going to keep the atmosphere going, especially as they are taking 'value' away from the customers. Otherwise they're going to lose thier bread and butter teams.
There has to be more to Sundays than drinking beer, wandering the trade village, and wishing you were playing...
I know, cause we were there almost the entire season last year...
Getting back to thread
I would challenge the MS to tell us why paying the same and playing 8 games = better venue?
I didnt see the MS turning many teams away last year so reducing the number of games can hardly increase the number of teams they are able to roster.
If that is the case then is the MS going to save money on feild set-up as there will be a smaller field requirement?
I doubt that too because the money saved must only be a few hundred euros.
I am just at a complete loss as to why this is being sanctioned. It makes no sense to me.
Mind you, a series that sanctions 5 man events as party to the main series may well have lost the plot in any case.
Perhaps its about time that MS Ltd is formed and promotes itself, pays professionals to do the work and 'profit' is removed from the equation. Until then the perception of all players is that 5 individual promoters are coining it in - and they are paying the cost!!!
Its a shame really because its the MS that shaped the here and now - c'mon guys lead again and give your PAYING CUSTOMERS what they want!!!!!
I would challenge the MS to tell us why paying the same and playing 8 games = better venue?
I didnt see the MS turning many teams away last year so reducing the number of games can hardly increase the number of teams they are able to roster.
If that is the case then is the MS going to save money on feild set-up as there will be a smaller field requirement?
I doubt that too because the money saved must only be a few hundred euros.
I am just at a complete loss as to why this is being sanctioned. It makes no sense to me.
Mind you, a series that sanctions 5 man events as party to the main series may well have lost the plot in any case.
Perhaps its about time that MS Ltd is formed and promotes itself, pays professionals to do the work and 'profit' is removed from the equation. Until then the perception of all players is that 5 individual promoters are coining it in - and they are paying the cost!!!
Its a shame really because its the MS that shaped the here and now - c'mon guys lead again and give your PAYING CUSTOMERS what they want!!!!!
Jeepers Creepers Sam
Did you NOT READ ANYTHING I WROTE????
How on Gods Holy Earth does reducing the number of games increase revenue if you accept that the events are full in any case and that freeing up scheduling time to allow more teams to play is moot as there are no more teams.
Hell lets make it a 2 game event - then we can get 1000 teams in, pay full time proper professionals to train at being judges 24/7/365.
Thats the answer - why didnt I think of it?
You see Teflon, I was asking if they thought that by doing this they would get the extra teams in? My view is that the series is saturated anyway - there are NO more teams to squeeze in.
Reducing numbers of games is actually likely to reduce the overall entrants over the series - thats 'cutting your nose to spite your face' in any one's books IMHO.
Well its nothing to do with me - I'm not playing any this year, my hard earned £ notes stay firmly in my pocket (ok wife's pocket).
I might come watch CC though - unless we are charged entry of course!!!
I read all that you wrote Mark, and obviously the MS does not share your view that the series is saturated with teams.
Cool idea Colin !
How about expanding it this way:
Commit one or two players from each Pro team, to do a "Pro School" on one of the fields on Sunday, if they are knocked out in the prelims?
- Obviously, participants would have to pay a low entrance fee (say £ 10) to participate (as an incentive for the Pros to do it)..... but I would rather spend my Sunday teaching kids to ball and making a bit of dough in the process, than sitting around drinking beer and looking at other playing (if we ever get knocked out that is)
The MS could even have a fixed schedule for that thing, so that whatever Pros tought the class, just had to read what was up next, and then teach it.
Nick
How about expanding it this way:
Commit one or two players from each Pro team, to do a "Pro School" on one of the fields on Sunday, if they are knocked out in the prelims?
- Obviously, participants would have to pay a low entrance fee (say £ 10) to participate (as an incentive for the Pros to do it)..... but I would rather spend my Sunday teaching kids to ball and making a bit of dough in the process, than sitting around drinking beer and looking at other playing (if we ever get knocked out that is
)The MS could even have a fixed schedule for that thing, so that whatever Pros tought the class, just had to read what was up next, and then teach it.
Nick
Are these "pro" (and I use that term lightly) refs paid on an hourly or daily basis?
I get the sneaky feeling it's the latter, so going from 10 to 8 games ain't saving money that way either...
Like already said, I think it's all in order to squeeze in more teams, but I doubt there will be more...
I get the sneaky feeling it's the latter, so going from 10 to 8 games ain't saving money that way either...
Like already said, I think it's all in order to squeeze in more teams, but I doubt there will be more...