Not strictly pball but given last night's events...

[Jones the Paint Magnet]

Yes, interspersed with Radiohead I seem to remember. Made a nice change from the snoring in my tent and the awful sounds of that nice James from A-team paintball being horribly molested by the others crammed in with me.

Tortoise-Licker - I think the MO these days is to let the press comment as things happen and not force speculation or confirmation/refusal from official sources before the event. Noticeable c*ck-up happened when the good ol' British Media gave the Argentine forces advanced warning of fleet movements and the march on Goose Green.

 

[Billy No Mates]

i just hope to god that the ex-marine stays loyal to his side. cos if he actually did join the "reds" then we would all be knackered.

whats the likelyhood of the US not spotting such an attack if they did go to war. major fleet losses on the first day. well looking at the track record, i wouldnt want to be in the first wave of ships.

 

[Baca Loco]

Re: Maestro, you've got to stop reading--

Originally posted by Hotpoint
"Taxation is the membership fee to a civilised society" John Maynard Keynes

So the more they take the more civilized you are? Regardless of what they do with it you're just happy to be the member of a civilized society, apparently. But then you are routinely an apologist for the nanny state.

 

[Buddha 3]

I don't buy into all this Georgie boy not being smart enough. Okay, he ain't but he's got some pretty smart people around him, who probably do a lot of the thinking on the matter for him.

Also, what's going to happen is pretty obvious. The target they choose (an air control center thingy) is the first thing you'd want to knock out if you are going to invade a country's airspace in numbers. Kinda like poking a guy's eyes out when you're going to have a fistfight with him. The first thing that happened as part of operation Desert Storm was the taking out of a large Iraqi radar and comm station (the biggest one they had) by a squad of Apaches. Same thing. Expect the proverbial **** to hit the fan any time soon kids!

Funny how our resident US Air Force posters have gone quiet... They must know something we don't.

 

[Hotpoint]

Re: Re: Maestro, you've got to stop reading--

Originally posted by Baca Loco

So the more they take the more civilized you are? Regardless of what they do with it you're just happy to be the member of a civilized society, apparently. But then you are routinely an apologist for the nanny state.

Not so much an "apologist for the nanny state" as a champion of government intervention when it's more efficient and effective than relying on the good-will of selfish individuals

For example, the British NHS costs the UK a far smaller percentage of national product than the American system. Whether you give the money from your pay-packet to the state, or to a private doctor, it's still missing from your disposable income and with a state system less of it goes missing!

Keynesian Economics has it's problems but it does allow most of the dynamism of capitalism whilst mitigating much of the social costs

Military spending is itself actually a form of Keynsian intervention and, of course, the cornerstone of US "Pork-Barrel" politics

 

[TJ Lambini]

Yep, everyone's got it ass backwards, it ain't a queastion of smarts...only George would be dumb enough to hit Iraq now is the reality of tha situation.

And as for keynes Hotpoint - any dude that has tha town of Milton Keynes named after him as gotta be nominated as some sort of posthumous *******, surely?

And as for Milton - homeboy blows. Gimme Blake any day

 

[Hotpoint]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Yep, everyone's got it ass backwards, it ain't a queastion of smarts...only George would be dumb enough to hit Iraq now is the reality of tha situation.

And as for keynes Hotpoint - any dude that has tha town of Milton Keynes named after him as gotta be nominated as some sort of posthumous *******, surely?

And as for Milton - homeboy blows. Gimme Blake any day

Got to agree about Milton Keynes. Horrible place full of Roundabouts and bloody Concrete Cows

TJ's reading list is another Lost Paradise for Milton then

As for the idea that Dubya has plenty of smart-guys around him... then why all the stupid freaking mistakes? If they exist he sure as hell doesn't listen to them

 

[TJ Lambini]

I think Buddha meant smart in comparison to George himself - I.e. they were allowed to take shop with real tools, rather than tha rubber safety ones...

 

[Baca Loco]

Re: Re: Re: Maestro, you've got to stop reading--

Originally posted by Hotpoint
For example, the British NHS costs the UK a far smaller percentage of national product than the American system. Whether you give the money from your pay-packet to the state, or to a private doctor, it's still missing from your disposable income and with a state system less of it goes missing!

Military spending is itself actually a form of Keynsian intervention and, of course, the cornerstone of US "Pork-Barrel" politics

Which is why the Antman is no doubt happy to wait, what, 15-18 months for his knee surgery?

Your conception of military spending is positively cartoonish.

 

[TJ Lambini]

i THINK IT'S MORE LIKE 12-MONTHS FROM WHAT HE TOLD ME...THAT OR PAY $4,500.

Ooops, shouting again.