New Thinking
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Russian Legion train through out the week physicaly mentally techniques everything etc how can any brit team compete with that when we all need to work at our jobs through the week to live aswell as play paintball, so even if you got the best of the best of brits in one team but train at least once or twice a week you still aint gonna be in front of RL,so unless sponsors spend an incredible amount of cash and train the best of the best through out of the week with dedication and commitment (as a job) then brits mite have a chance at domination
Russian Legion train through out the week physicaly mentally techniques everything etc how can any brit team compete with that when we all need to work at our jobs through the week to live aswell as play paintball, so even if you got the best of the best of brits in one team but train at least once or twice a week you still aint gonna be in front of RL,so unless sponsors spend an incredible amount of cash and train the best of the best through out of the week with dedication and commitment (as a job) then brits mite have a chance at domination
Ofcourse you can't compete with RL - but dude - not even Dynasty can, so why focus on that?
The fact that you cannot practice as much as the best team in the world, is no reason to give up.
Money is slowly becoming more apparent in the sport, and a few years from now, more teams will be able to do what RL is doing..... so the important question is how serious you are in the meantime!!!
Point being, you do what you can, and furtunately money doesn't buy everything..... so you practice 1-2-3- times a week, and you'll be fine.
(BTW, RL only practices 5 times per week)
Nick
The fact that you cannot practice as much as the best team in the world, is no reason to give up.
Money is slowly becoming more apparent in the sport, and a few years from now, more teams will be able to do what RL is doing..... so the important question is how serious you are in the meantime!!!
Point being, you do what you can, and furtunately money doesn't buy everything..... so you practice 1-2-3- times a week, and you'll be fine.
(BTW, RL only practices 5 times per week)
Nick
im already there... i am a lowly student..
i pay my own way, i work part time in the evenings inbetween college to fund my paintball habbits...
most of my money goes on travel expenses to be honest...
i have to work sundays to pay the bills also whitch severely limits my training opertunitys. and living in wales, there is not a great deal of options of where and how to train.
some of the boys at "No Limit Bridgend" are nice enough to invite me and my team mates to train with them but sadly, for myself, i cannot afford to not work sundays..
And you have no idea how long and hard i had to save to buy an Ego =D.. i have made plenty of sacrifices, mainly my social life.
Anyway, Back on Topic..
Robbo..
i agree with what you say about harvesting the top players to make more quality UK Pro teams to promote paintball in the UK..
It is a good idea and would pay off to get Brit Balling great...
and get us the representation we need as a country...
But..
What about the rest of us??
First of all, i am relatively new to the scene and my knoledge is limited, so if i am wrong in my interpretation of this, then slap me around the head and make me your Bitch!! but the way i see it..
Harvesting Top players from many Mid Range teams will in my oppinion have a detrimental effect on the sport as a whole..
You say the paintball sport is incestuous already??
Now imagine what would happen if all the mid range teams lost their top players to make 2 or 3 more Pro teams....
First, The Mid range teams would lose the one asset that would help them to improve their game, their best and well motivated player..
Also, with these newly formed "Top Teams" guaranteed to swamp the top end of all UK tourneys, the Mid Range teams who have already lost their Top Players would have nothing to aim for, as they know the same teams all the time are going to finish on top..
also over time, these extra "Top Teams" will soon be the ones adopting all the sponsorship recognition and other benifits that will be slowly taken away from the mass number of middle teams that will no longer be able to compete for their piece of the spotlight..
ultimately, it will make these extra top "Pro Teams" more incestuous and a divide would grow between them and the rest of the sport...
Personally i feel your ideas are fine, but on the long term, would hurt many other upcoming teams who would lose the motivation, due to not being able to acomplish anything, Sponsorship, due to more pro teams being their to take it, and ability to improve, as their main players have been "hoovered" as you put it, to form these pro teams...
i just think your meathods would hurt more people than it would help...
Your oppinions please...
Now wait a minute...
I thought that Robbo was talking about more pro teams forming from the raw materials (players) that are evidently becoming more abundant in the UK. It sounds like some of you guys are thinking on a more local scale, ie competing in the locals. That is a whole different kettle of fish than putting more English pro teams in the Champions League or the NPPL.
Now, as Nick was saying, you can't compete with RL or Dynasty with these theorectical new pro teams, but you can gun for the Evil Factories and Ton Tons of this world. You'd need a serious budget to threaten the Legion, and unless someone is a Russian banker on the team, you need to build the team as a brand, like Nexus or Aftershock or Avalanche. You need to have people actually buying stuff based on the fact that team XYZ is using it and achieving some modest success and 'cause they are so feakin' cool and all.
Maybe that is putting the cart before the horse, though, since these individual players scattered around the UK aren't part oif any XYZ Team yet, and haven't begun training to where they could beat down Evil Factory or the Bushwackers or anybody else.
But first you need to give them an incentive to play on the same team... you could assemble a good sponsor package, but then, I would say that, I am an American and a materialistic, mercenary *******. You could offer a coach with some serious credibility. You could find an ideal training facility. You could buy a house and move all the players into it (kidnapping and brainwashing!)(like Trauma!). You could install bombs in their chests that explode if they get too far apart...
Talent and disposable income don't always go together, and the more concensus builds that someone is skilled, the poorer he always seems to get.
Everyone starts out paying through the nose, but your blackbelts will pay less if anything (and face higher expectations).
I thought that Robbo was talking about more pro teams forming from the raw materials (players) that are evidently becoming more abundant in the UK. It sounds like some of you guys are thinking on a more local scale, ie competing in the locals. That is a whole different kettle of fish than putting more English pro teams in the Champions League or the NPPL.
Now, as Nick was saying, you can't compete with RL or Dynasty with these theorectical new pro teams, but you can gun for the Evil Factories and Ton Tons of this world. You'd need a serious budget to threaten the Legion, and unless someone is a Russian banker on the team, you need to build the team as a brand, like Nexus or Aftershock or Avalanche. You need to have people actually buying stuff based on the fact that team XYZ is using it and achieving some modest success and 'cause they are so feakin' cool and all.
Maybe that is putting the cart before the horse, though, since these individual players scattered around the UK aren't part oif any XYZ Team yet, and haven't begun training to where they could beat down Evil Factory or the Bushwackers or anybody else.
But first you need to give them an incentive to play on the same team... you could assemble a good sponsor package, but then, I would say that, I am an American and a materialistic, mercenary *******. You could offer a coach with some serious credibility. You could find an ideal training facility. You could buy a house and move all the players into it (kidnapping and brainwashing!)(like Trauma!). You could install bombs in their chests that explode if they get too far apart...
Talent and disposable income don't always go together, and the more concensus builds that someone is skilled, the poorer he always seems to get.
Everyone starts out paying through the nose, but your blackbelts will pay less if anything (and face higher expectations).
LOL Gyro
I have to agree with Gyro here, this thread was named New Thinking and within a few posts were are in the 'have and have nots' again.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
NEW THINKING,Cmon
Millsy
Originally posted by Gyroscope
Now wait a minute...
I thought that Robbo was talking about more pro teams forming from the raw materials (players) that are evidently becoming more abundant in the UK. It sounds like some of you guys are thinking on a more local scale, ie competing in the locals. That is a whole different kettle of fish than putting more English pro teams in the Champions League or the NPPL.
Now, as Nick was saying, you can't compete with RL or Dynasty with these theorectical new pro teams, but you can gun for the Evil Factories and Ton Tons of this world. You'd need a serious budget to threaten the Legion, and unless someone is a Russian banker on the team, you need to build the team as a brand, like Nexus or Aftershock or Avalanche. You need to have people actually buying stuff based on the fact that team XYZ is using it and achieving some modest success and 'cause they are so feakin' cool and all.
Maybe that is putting the cart before the horse, though, since these individual players scattered around the UK aren't part oif any XYZ Team yet, and haven't begun training to where they could beat down Evil Factory or the Bushwackers or anybody else.
But first you need to give them an incentive to play on the same team... you could assemble a good sponsor package, but then, I would say that, I am an American and a materialistic, mercenary *******. You could offer a coach with some serious credibility. You could find an ideal training facility. You could buy a house and move all the players into it (kidnapping and brainwashing!)(like Trauma!). You could install bombs in their chests that explode if they get too far apart...
Talent and disposable income don't always go together, and the more concensus builds that someone is skilled, the poorer he always seems to get.
Spot on !
Pete would you be willing to head up some new trials to find these new teams. I think that knowing that you will have input into the selection of said teams may encourage the players to turn up and try out and subsequently this will then I feel would hold a new team together. It would probably help in aquiring some assistance from the industry.
Millsy
Millsy
ok.. i just missunderstood... like i said, im new...
i see gyros point...
(had to try and start a healthy debate though
)
Nicks right.
If you want to be the best
and you want to beat the rest
dedications what you need
.........if you wanna be a record breaker, yeah!
coat please