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Never heard anything so Ridiculous in my life!

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Originally posted by sjt19
I had a chat with you in Portugal i think on the table outside the smartparts stand, i was with Wayne and you guys were helping me try to find out how to turn my Race Cocker on!!!!! Oh, and i may not be old enough to drive the rental car, but i am old enough to sample the local alcoholic beverages.....:p
Musta been my evil twin - I was nowhere near Portugal - just ask Piper, he couldn't stop swearing at me when I told him I was outside on a beautiful warm day walking my dog.

See ya in Bitburg...

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Ok, was obviously other Ducklings fom your team then... catch up with you in Germany.

Cant Wait!!

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Christ, listen to yourselves

Originally posted by duffistuta
- there are left and right wing, rich and poor, arab and christian, dwarves, lesbians and satanists on both sides of the argument. These people do not have one reason to be for or against, their rationales are varied, so stop with the blanket terms.

Right on..But theres something quite strange about this;)


 

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Originally posted by duffistuta
Americans this, French that, Arabs this...all this ascribing one viewpoint to groups millions strong is crass, stupid and wrong. All it does is lead to a climate of prejudice, fear and intolerance that is played upon by fundamentalist leaders the world over, from Sharon to Arafat, Bush to Hussein.
Except of course for the following terms: Warmongering-Americans, Trigger happy Americans, Shoot-first-and ask-questions-later-Americans, Blood thirsty-Americans, Oil grabbing-Americans, and Imperialistic-Americans. Because for the past 6 months these terms were just fine with everyone.
Originally posted by duffistuta
And as for the '1/3 of French want the coalition to lose/therefore that's the socialist 1/3rd' well, that's just pathetic.
How is that pathetic? First of all I didn't say it was a cold hard fact, just that it was "interesting" that the same number who would like to see the coalition lose the war, matches the percentage that vote socialist. C'mon, I'll be the first person to acknowledge when stereotyping has gone too far, but to imply that someone that; #1 is a French citizen, and #2 consistently votes socialist could conceivably support anything that America does, is taking anti-stereotyping a little too far.
Originally posted by duffistuta
A recent US poll revealed that, thanks to months of spin and US politicians continuously using the words 'Saddam' and '9/11' together, 56% of Americans currently believe that Saddam HusSein was directly responsible for 9/11. So should we then infer from that that 56% of Americans are morons?
Please post a link to that poll, including the question or questions that led to that figure.
 
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Except of course for the following terms: Warmongering-Americans, Trigger happy Americans, Shoot-first-and ask-questions-later-Americans, Blood thirsty-Americans, Oil grabbing-Americans, and Imperialistic-Americans. Because for the past 6 months these terms were just fine with everyone.

>>>Not with me mate, the anti-American thing is as bad as the rest.


How is that pathetic? First of all I didn't say it was a cold hard fact, just that it was "interesting" that the same number who would like to see the coalition lose the war, matches the percentage that vote socialist.

>>>The implication was pretty obviuos though.

C'mon, I'll be the first person to acknowledge when stereotyping has gone too far, but to imply that someone that; #1 is a French citizen, and #2 consistently votes socialist could conceivably support anything that America does, is taking anti-stereotyping a little too far.


>>>I've encountered a lot of right wingers who are every bit as vehemently anti-war as a lot of the left...lots of left-wingers view the war favourably, lots don't.

Please post a link to that poll, including the question or questions that led to that figure.

>>>My apologies, it was actually 42% and was taken from a New York Times/CBS News survey that was referenced in The Guardian in a feature earlier this week.

I wasn't trying to have a pop at you specifically mate, I'm just getting sick of all the nationalism and borderline racism flying around...including anti-Americanism.
 

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Well I've been all over CBSNews.com trying to find any survey that says anything about Saddam and a 42% belief in his participation in 9/11. If one does exist I'd be really interested in the phrasing of any question posed to the participants that would result in such a number.
However reading that so-called article by Arundhati Roy explained a lot to me.

"...the day after American and British troops began their illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq..."

"What percentage of America's armed forces believe these fabrications is anybody's guess."

"President George W Bush, commander in chief of the US army, navy, airforce and marines has issued clear instructions: 'Iraq. Will. Be. Liberated.' (Perhaps he means that even if Iraqi people's bodies are killed, their souls will be liberated.)"


With such objectivity who can argue?
 
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I'd be surprised if The Guardian subs didn't fact check it, they tend to be pretty good at that sort of thing, but I can't find any corroboration of it anywhere after a search.
 
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And why would you expect objectivity - it's an opinion piece by an author who clearly feels that something teribly wrong is going on? The left can spin just as well - if not better - than the right...Blair is a past master.
 

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Originally posted by sjt19
Just been watching the news and the Uk armed forces spokesman said that the war was proceeding with "flawless military planning, and historians for years to come will regard the military tactics with respect"..............:confused: :confused:

Flawless.......:confused: :confused: How many blue on blue kills?? Friendly fire.....:confused: :confused: Civilian Deaths....:confused: :confused:

If that is the meaning of 'flawless' then i would hate to witness a campaign riddled with average planning and poor tactics.....:rolleyes:

Who the hell are you to criticist these events!!! These are all sh*ty by-products of an action to free a people oppressed for 24 years! Yes, people died, yes, they didn't need to, but don't you think the Armed Forces have got it tough enough (liberating a nation) without you bitching on about the things they should of, but couldn't be helped!!!