Oh, Hotpoint, you is dangerously close to getting me started again--but I's gonna resist the temptation as I don't want to hijack this particular thread.
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Not much option
though is there Hotpoint...watch.
'I opt out.'
Hmm, think that'll make me exempt?
though is there Hotpoint...watch.
'I opt out.'
Hmm, think that'll make me exempt?
being 14 means that you don't get an opinion (just ask ROBBO)
People really need to lighten up & if you don't like it, don't buy it.
People really need to lighten up & if you don't like it, don't buy it.
Not much option
I don't disagree with you TJ I just don't like "moral" arguments as they are too subjective
If I may draw a parallel with the old camo/non-camo argument the fact that the former may be bad for our image does not mean we should ban it
Ditto T-Shirts
No why should it?
I don't disagree with you TJ I just don't like "moral" arguments as they are too subjective
If I may draw a parallel with the old camo/non-camo argument the fact that the former may be bad for our image does not mean we should ban it
Ditto T-Shirts
At the risk of sounding like the least intelligent one here ...
DeToqueville's tyranny of the masses (the louder minority overruling the silent majority) is a fact of life. The true moral of history is to follow the money, and that too is a fact of life. Selling to the common (lowest?) denominator drives our economies at a certain level. Image before substance also drives much of what we do.
But why should we wallow in the same worlds as the masses, why should we do as others do sheep-like? In our striving for a unique culture, we copy other cultures. The Greeks had all the original ideas but paintball has made originality a sin. Surfer/valley/rapper vocabularies, military references, equipment borrowed from scuba diving, cattle marking, army magazine pouches, heck our pods are glorified cartridge holders of the kind you empty into the rifle Mauser-style. Our masks were made from skiing goggles and our shinguards come from hockey equipment. Our ammo are bath oil beads!
Don't we want to break away, and go not after the little dollars in the pockets of the punks (I include myself as a punk) but the big dollars in the pockets of the parents, the corporations and the well-heeled? And usually a little risque adverting would be okay ... except in our sport we shoot each other! Dodgeball with sniper scopes!
My point is I'm not interested in the wallet of a teenager or the money they can borrow, I want Coors' NASCAR account manager as a customer. Our "sport" is not on a safe enough foundation to get that legitimacy (and yes, legitimacy = TV, corporate interest, rules). And we're not doing anything to achieve that.
Will it change paintball? Is the USPL / X-Ball slightly different? Did we go from the woods to concept? Bien sur, mes amies, change it big time it will.
I need to exhale more when I type these, I almost passed out. Thanks for the bent ears this way, good conversation, and all in (theoretical) fun. But some big problems involved too,
Just li'l ole me ranting without breathing,
Larry Janecka
DeToqueville's tyranny of the masses (the louder minority overruling the silent majority) is a fact of life. The true moral of history is to follow the money, and that too is a fact of life. Selling to the common (lowest?) denominator drives our economies at a certain level. Image before substance also drives much of what we do.
But why should we wallow in the same worlds as the masses, why should we do as others do sheep-like? In our striving for a unique culture, we copy other cultures. The Greeks had all the original ideas but paintball has made originality a sin. Surfer/valley/rapper vocabularies, military references, equipment borrowed from scuba diving, cattle marking, army magazine pouches, heck our pods are glorified cartridge holders of the kind you empty into the rifle Mauser-style. Our masks were made from skiing goggles and our shinguards come from hockey equipment. Our ammo are bath oil beads!
Don't we want to break away, and go not after the little dollars in the pockets of the punks (I include myself as a punk) but the big dollars in the pockets of the parents, the corporations and the well-heeled? And usually a little risque adverting would be okay ... except in our sport we shoot each other! Dodgeball with sniper scopes!
My point is I'm not interested in the wallet of a teenager or the money they can borrow, I want Coors' NASCAR account manager as a customer. Our "sport" is not on a safe enough foundation to get that legitimacy (and yes, legitimacy = TV, corporate interest, rules). And we're not doing anything to achieve that.
Will it change paintball? Is the USPL / X-Ball slightly different? Did we go from the woods to concept? Bien sur, mes amies, change it big time it will.
I need to exhale more when I type these, I almost passed out. Thanks for the bent ears this way, good conversation, and all in (theoretical) fun. But some big problems involved too,
Just li'l ole me ranting without breathing,
Larry Janecka
Just plain more of a student, full stop!Originally posted by Hotpoint
Obviously more of a student of Voltaire than Socrates
Toke Toke Toke!
J/K dude.
Cattle marking? do the cattle markers need 20 plus cows marked per second?
The Sport side of paintball is trying desperatley to try and distance itself from the military references, hence Marker, Elimination, rather than gun, and kill.
Also, saying ammo is an unusual concept to me (and this may just be me), I come of a game and say "I did 4 pots" or "That bloke in the t-bag was a pain, I did 800 paint at him". Like I say, that may just be me subconciously avoind ammo, and rounds, to get away from guns and war
Army magazine pouches, from what I've seen, don't have half the design effort that pot-packs (not battle backs anymore
) do - elasticated straps to allow for proper tightening, lumbar support, etc.Our goggles were skiing/motorcross/safety goggles, but look at the investment by the likes of JT and DYE (etc) in to the current crop of goggle systems, with lowered profiles, special "hearing assisting" earpiece designs, and little extras such as fans to help prevent misting.
Bath oil beads? I'd agree that they're pretty similar in principle, but I'd say if the paint manufacturers spent as little time/money/effort on paintballs as they do on bath oil beads, we'd need a different barrel insert for each shot.
I think long term we need to be snaring those who are currently 15 to late 20's, so yes, we need the teens.
Why? Well, in the next few years, these people will be breeding, and 15 to 20 years down the line from now, will be getting their kids into paintball, and there will be a massive growth in the sport, game, and industry as a whole.
The point of the above wibblings? I dunno, I can't remember now, I've spent too long typing it!
Back to coursework for the dumb student!
Meanwhile, we all spend money on lots of bags of mulitcolored capsules to get a rush from shooting them...