Joy Masters field design...

[goose]

Back to the field design thingy....

The average MS field is 70m x 40m, if we take this size and say that as all players start in the middle - your average sit-in-the-corner-shoot-a-lot-of-paint-move-nowhere back player has to run 15-20m to get to his cover.

At Joy there was more than enough "big & tall man" cover within that distance of the start box - mayeb not in the direction most of these players a accumstomed to - but it was there.

It's time for teams to start thinking "outside the box" and use some imagination when it comes to game plans.

Buddha - nice to see you got my point about when 2 Am or Novice teams play they are playing the same field - I can't understand why others can't.

I may be 275lbs, but I'm still very bendy. (okay, I guess you guys did not want to know that)

NO WE DIDN'T

goose

 

[Dannefaerd]

Thanks Buddha - I didn't want to imagine a bendy dutchman, but now that image is stuck in my head (yes I have issues, but my wife is Dutch!)

 

[Rachel Stormbird]

Joy Masters

Phew! Just got to the end of all the posts.

Well, I have now broken my millenium event cherry by playing Sweden with Team Redz.

Day one the fields were a complete shock to the system as like probably loads of other teams I had been training on the usual '2 stand up cans at the back' fields. This coupled with the fact that we were a scratch team who had never all played together before, didn't produce much of a result. BUT day 2 and I was adapting. That's all it is, adapting the style of play and now the fields have altered once everyone will have to train differently incase.

Had a most excellent time. Thanks Redz for letting me play. Results meant nothing this weekend. We were there just to play ball!

Highlight of the weekend - seeing Fat Ladies Charms qualify for the semis.

Fellow girl players in England we need to raise our game and take it a bit more seriously if we are gonna compete.

Rachel

P.S. can everyone stop getting shot and leaving me on the field on my own!!

 

[ascutt]

Cant resist joining in........

Guys

At what point do you consider aggressive fields to be too aggressive? I watched game after game after game of sub 1 minute long games and I have to say that it sucked. I watched all the finals and a lot of the qualifying in Toulouse and saw many great games that the spectators enjoyed - surely this is what we as a sport need to be heading towards? Rather than out and out aggressive field design we need to find a blend that allows a mix of skills to be used. I think that the Tommahawk and Angel fields went way too far down the aggressive road - the Draxxus and Raven fields were a much better blend offering some truely entertaining games.
If this 'sport' is to grow then we need to provide entertainment to the masses, not 1 minute games where some skinny pro kid gets his rocks off mugging out 6 novice players - thats not sport, its butchery!!!

 

[ascutt]

Oh and....

Goose,

Your cheap dig at Campaign Power in an attempt to counter Jeffs arguement was frankly insulting and below you.

 

[TJ Lambini]

Gotta disagree...

"If this 'sport' is to grow then we need to provide entertainment to the masses, not 1 minute games where some skinny pro kid gets his rocks off mugging out 6 novice players - thats not sport, its butchery!!!"

That is EXACTLY what tha MTV generation wants...check out half-pipe, or dual-slalom, or BMX racing...all last a minute or two. Plus if the game goes that way it makes life a lot cheaper for kids looking to play ball...think of tha paint bill.

Too many people are confusing what they want to see as experienced ballers and what tha target market wants to see - which is in your face crazy-ass moves. A 15-minute tactical game that ends in a flurry is interesting to NO-ONE bar ballers...period.

 

[NIALL]

you just need to differentiate between playing and watching.

You wanna watch the radical stuff but stay in the game long enough to get some sense of vfm. There is some common ground it just means compromise.

 

[Urban]

Gotta disagree...

Originally posted by TJ Lambini

Too many people are confusing what they want to see as experienced ballers and what tha target market wants to see - which is in your face crazy-ass moves. A 15-minute tactical game that ends in a flurry is interesting to NO-ONE bar ballers...period.

Does that mean that todays ballers don't count?

Are The Powers That Be (TM) staying, to your 'too many people', "screw you lot, we want this as a visual, spectator sport and we want the main stream cash and recognition that comes with that, so either adapt or f*ck off?"

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but I thought the main rational and driving force behind any sport was the players, not the spectators?

Urban

 

[TJ Lambini]

In our branded times,

tha spectator drives as much as tha participant IMHO.

Today's ballers count, sure, but there ain't that many of 'em. These stats that keep getting trotted out are great, but remember tha WORLD tourney community numbers maybe 3,000 players...and that is a minute amount.

Two minute extreme games will A - get televised and B - attract the target market (young, affluent, predominantly male) - which will attract outside industry.

Generations change, tha game changes...Christ, team sizes, field sizes and game times have been getting shorter since tourney began, this is a natural progression IMHO. You can bet your bottom dollar that the 15-man squads who used to play on fields tha size of Conneticut would have taken one look at tha first Hyperball field and refused point blank to play it...this is no different. Some players adapt, some don't - that's tha way of tha world.

Tha likes of Bob Long and Erik Felix, superb crawlers with great woodcraft, probably weren't over tha moon when tha game came outta tha woods either...think they'd go back now?

 

[Mr. Andersson]

The fields were excelent. Very fun both to play and watch. We played Novice and we got alot of good training playing these agressive fields against the better Pro and Am teams. It was great fun. Thanx Magued and the other people designing the fields.