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Originally posted by Manning26


I liken it to picking up a magazine on rally racing, and then finding an article covering a gent goin' on about driving his station wagon back and forth from the grocery. Alright, that's a bit severe, but it's similar.

What total rubbish! This is what makes Paintball unique as a sport, and in many ways what makes it so attractive! In how many other sports can a kid who's been playing five minutes get to play against some of the world's best teams? Paintball crosses boundaries between rookies and pros in a way that no other sport does. If rec kids can go talk on line to their favorite pballer, or go enter a big game to find out he's playing on the same team as a couple guys from avalanche, or pop into his local pball store and have billy wing fix his gun for him, then why the hell can't he get his face in a magazine?

What also amazes me is that while you lot are moaning about some really cool rookie kid with a funny story to tell getting in the mag, players from some novice team are kicking up a storm because I didn't mention them in my Amsterdam report!

So who's right? I'll tell you who - me, cos I'm the editor.
 

Mr Big

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Re: Hmmmm!

Originally posted by AJermstad


Tying in with PGI - to get a hold of a copy in England, you have to either have a subscription or order it specially from you're newsagents/bookstore. I've never seen a copy on the shelf.
That may have been the case a few months back, but it's certainly not true now. We're currently pushing PGI on the shelves through WHSmith's at the moment, and have been since PGI Feb 02. It'll be in most of the bigger stores.

Pball is picking up again in the UK...thanks to us.
 

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Originally posted by rancid
Hey recoil, there's a school of thought that says 'weekend warriors' should be chased out of paintball altogether - is this what you're saying?
No, no one should be chased out of the sport, however... it only takes one TV company or programme to do some research and pick up PGI read thru it, see all the nice shiney jersys and Supair ball fields... then they turn over the page and see the Joe Schmo section, in there is some guy who is dressed in Camo's has a rambo attitude and a marker that looks as if it has come straight out of a taliban arms dump and away they will go focusing on the negative, telling the public how we are all frustrated soldiers that "kill" each other with "bullets" made of paint fired from gas powered "guns".

OTT? maybe but it has happened before, PGI is in effect the voice of the sport at the moment and a guide to what is going on in the paintball world. People need guiding as to what is in effect PC and what isnt within our sport, Joe Shcmo in Camos and military based paintball markers are not PC and should not be given the, what is probably quite valuable, space within the industries leading magazine.

Show rec-ballers, show am/novice tourney players, but show the people that have the right attitude and the right outlook towards progressing our sport forward...

on another note...

Originally posted by Mr Big.<br>So who's right? I'll tell you who - me, cos I'm the editor
and we are your customers.... food for thought maybe?
 
If PGI, or any other

mag stopped showing camos and 'military style guns' then we'd all lose tha vast majority of our readership...

And why is a guy in camos shooting a Tippmann 'not PC' when a guy in a jersey with a big old skull on shooting a Cocker is? Pur-leese...

You really think WDP Heaven with ladies wearing precious little modelling guns is more PC than a kid in DPMs? Get real bro.

Face it, we use guns and have scarey masks and scream at each other and shoot each other in tha head from very close range...that is NEVER going to be PC.
 

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Sorry TJ you arent thinking about this in the right manner....

Paintball has tried for a long time to distance itself from the Warlike image it is supposed to portray, I read time and time again in PGI about how we want to move the sport forward, get members of the public in to spectate, to move the game out of the woods and on to the Sup Air fields to make sure that we are portraying ourselves to the public in the correct manner.

Maybe some guy in a JT/Dye etc etc jersey with a cocker isnt that PC, after all we cant escape from the fact that he is in effect still holding a gun, no matter how much you or I like to call them markers, however it is a darn sight more PC than some muppet in a camo set, 25" barrel and snipers scope... face it the sport moved away from camos and sniping etc because the game became something different, it moved on.

People still play days with all in one camos and tippmans, its how sites stay in business, we dont have to hide that, we or rather you have to present paintball in the light that is most attractive to the man (or woman) in the street...

As for the WDP Heaven comment, where did I mention anything of that nature? I didnt and it has nothing to do with this discussion.
 

Mr Big

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Oh come on

Many tourney pllayers still talk about 'kills', spend half their time drinking and smoking between games, continuously swear and scream curses at each other when on the field, often take their goggles off before and after the game when they're still on the field, shoot their guns in safe areas, and of course cheat - is this PC? Is this the kind of thing we want to promote to TV? If you've been to many tournaments, you'll know that all this happens.

I suggest you go after the real problems before picking on the innocents who are helping to build up a huge base of players at grass roots level by showing that the game is accessible to anybody, and can still be played even if you don't want to go and enter some highly intense competition situation right from the start.

Some more food for thought!
 

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Originally posted by Recoil

As for the WDP Heaven comment, where did I mention anything of that nature? I didnt and it has nothing to do with this discussion.
Oh yes it does. You were talking about the PC side of paintball, and WDP Heaven with scanti ly clad girls etc has everything to do with the PC side of paintball.

We want to encourage more and more players to join the sport, whether it's at rec level or tourney level. How can we do that if we ignore the recballers? It's because of them renting guns and buying site paint that the industry exists.

Someone in camo may not seem so PC to you, but it damn well is by the fact that they hold the industry together.