Originally posted by Intheno
I think the long term viability of the market is far more important to the manufacturers you dislike than it is to you.
But still apparently less important to them than their short-term interests.
In what way is that 'clear' Back that up (wasting my time here, as you don't back up any of your 'quotes').
I make a reasonable argument, regardless of your inability to comprehend it.
In this case, some have said that the press release was issued to protect WDP from liability. This is silly, as issuing a press release in which you say that you don't believe your product is safe CREATES liability.
presumably you now want to change it to an anti-WDP and Planet vendetta, as not to do so would be to prove me right, surely?
Huh? The whole point is that there is no vendetta. I just think the press release is bad.
Ridiculous comment. Who areyou rto say what is reasonable. There arewarnings on bottles of Aspirin, is it unreasonable to sell aspirin - only if WDP sell it, right?
Well, I think since we're on a web forum, it wouldn't be out of line for people to express opinions about what is and is not reasonable?
As for Asprin, again, you are using a poor analogy. Asprin is a pain reliever, along with having other medicinal properties. It also has side effects. The difference between asprin's side effects, for which there are a warning label, and a ramping mode on a marker, is two fold:
First, there's no warning label on the marker that using the ramping mode is less safe than not using it. If WDP has said in a press release that ramping is not safe, but does not include that warning with their product, they've created a problem for themselves.
Second, the manufacturer of asprin can not eliminate the side effects of asprin while still selling effective asprin. Asprin has ALWAYS had those side effects. WDP consciously added ramping to their markers however. It wasn't there before - the presence of ramping results from an overt, culpable act by WDP, and the presence is not necessary for the marker to otherwise function properly.
A better analogy would be if a manufacturer of Asprin started dying their pills a different color, and then put out a press release saying that they thought people who took the new capsule might go blind. The manufacturer would definitely be liable for anybody who went blind as a result of the new capsule.
Who said this? Its in quotation marks again, are you mis-quoting or lying. Be more honest. An honest tosser is still a tosser, but at least he's honest....
Ith, you're being uncharacteristically ridiculous. You are perfectly well aware that when I use quotes like that that I'm paraphrasing. You don't have anything intelligent to say, so you just keep saying "OH, YOU USED PUNCTUATION IN A MANNER I DON'T AGREE WITH, YOU LIAR!"
Oops, there I go again.
I can't believe that you're honestly this oblivious. It was a HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. It was in direct response to the question "I wonder who writes Millenium's insurance?", and my question ws followed by an explanation as to why it was not reasonable to ask that question of millenium if you thought NPPLs insurance situation was unremarkable. Then you only quoted the question and dropped the explanation, and now two posts later you're trying to make it look like I actually asked the question when it was clearly rhetorical in the original context.
There is a huge, gargantuin difference. The Millennium have told people its OK to use ramping guns, thus exposing themselves to liability through the spoken word. The NPPL has as many people using ramping guns, but as I have said before, it employs personnel and technology to prevent it. While you may mock thier attempts to stop ramping, they do attempt to stop it, and that is the difference. if you don't see the difference then step out of the paintball environment for a second and look at it through the eyes of an insurance company.
Where has millenium said ramping is ok? Can you back that up?
And indeed, let's look at it through the eyes of the insurance company. The insurance company doesn't care whether you try. They care about their risk, and the risk of X% of people using ramping is EXACTLY THE SAME. It doesn't matter if those X people are playing in a league that is or is not trying to stop them, the risk is the same.
And I never use the word zealot. If you want to add power to your argument, stop doing it by mis-quoting, or often completely making quotes up. It wrecks any legitimate points you may have. I can't actually talke you seriously after those completely fabricated quotes you made up yesterday, What was that all about? How about answering my question as to who said those things, or preferably, just admit you were bull****ting and I'll drop it.
Oh give it up already. They're unattributed, illustrative, fictional quotes. Any resemblence to what actual people might have said is purely a reflection of what they really mean when you strip away the BS.
