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Baca Loco

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I am loathe to get involved as we have been getting along so famously of late but--

To suggest that perfunctory legal distinctions reflect the practical or actual reality of the relationships involved is, at a minimum, vaguely hypocritical (and amusing) considering--

The folks running the PSP and the NXL routinely make the same distinctions and you, among numerous others, have mocked that claim for the pitiful sleight of hand it attempts to be even though I am sure they are all separate legal entities, too.

btw--fascinating breakdown of the roles involved but I can't help wondering why, after all this time, the NPPL doesn't control its own purse-strings. :) Just seems curious but I'm sure there's a good reason.
 

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Did you stop to consider that maybe you think I don't understand because my understanding is beyond your ability to understand? ;)

For the point at hand, the truth is this:

Whether or not ramping is allowed in NPPL is ultimately controlled by the same person who controls WDP.
 

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Originally posted by Baca Loco
The folks running the PSP and the NXL routinely make the same distinctions and you, among numerous others, have mocked that claim for the pitiful sleight of hand it attempts to be even though I am sure they are all separate legal entities, too.
That's a fairly good analogy. The day-to-day of PSP is done by Lane. He makes all the major decisions. But ULTIMATELY, the owners of PSP (the same people who own smart parts, dye, shocktech, draxxus, national, etc) can override anything Lane does.

Chuck makes all the day-to-day decisions for NPPL, and Bart makes all the day-to-day decisions for Pure Promotions. But if Chuck and Bart have a disagreement, Bart wins. And if the owner of Pure Promotions (the same guy who owns WDP) decides he doesn't like what Bart is doing, he can override anything Bart does.

Because just like Lane is gone if the PSP owners arn't happy with him, Bart is gone if Ged isn't happy with him, and NPPL is expendable if Pure Promotions isn't happy with it.


Put another way, Pure Promotions can function without NPPL. NPPL can't function without Pure Promotions, because after getting WDP to foot the bill when NPPL split from PSP, there's nobody left for NPPL to go to to get money to start ANOTHER league.
 

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I tried to get out but they just keep pulling me back in

Originally posted by Baca Loco
fascinating breakdown of the roles involved but I can't help wondering why, after all this time, the NPPL doesn't control its own purse-strings. :) Just seems curious but I'm sure there's a good reason.
NPPL does control it's own purse strings - they brought the name and the ID card system to the table, and they get to keep the $35 and the sanctioning fee.

But Pure Promotions foot the bill for everything else that makes the league work, so they keep the related proceeds. Be pretty silly for WDP to put up all the cash for starting the new league and then let NPPL have all the profit, don't ya think?
 

Baca Loco

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Chicago, if you're going to answer everything there won't be anything for ITN to do except point out how wrong you are or at least how unfairly you are misrepresenting the "facts."

Oh look, now I've done it too. Nothing left for ITN at all.
 

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oh, and Baca, you are making it harder and harder for people (well, me anyway) to understand your questions. There will come a time where you will have to decide which is better, the ability to be understood or the ability to use as many long words as possible.
 

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ur like little girls. :rolleyes:

This is just saying the players are now responsible for any accidents occuring whilst using the in question firing modes. If you havn't been to see them, rock an angel then hurt someone, you could be sued, and find yourself liable.
 

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Pathetic.

Wdp takes a stand to stop this BS ramping. Actuelly the first manufactuer to have the guts. And all you have to say is PP owns NPPL? So f*cking what if they did. They are at least trying to stop this insanity!

They offer a cap of 15 bps on semi only, thats great!
And after all is said and done, WHO IS GOING TO PAY IF SOMEONE LOSE HES EYE??? Are we insured with ramping guns???

Magued
 

Intheno

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no, rampings not insured, but then what does that matter when there's semantics to discuss, and mud to fling, and agenda's to reconcile, and all that other stuff that is so much more fun than the basic fact that people won't be insured and so if they get hurt they could be in a proper mess.

There aren't enough long words to use in that argument. And no-one wants to blame the Millenium, its uncool....